Colt's Game Performance
 

I don't consider myself a member of the COC but I have seen some posts that are ranking on Colt for his performance yesterday. Some people are saying that he is worse than he was last preseason and hasn't improved at all.

Keep in mind I'm no cultist, but what I saw was multiple plays where he had no time to pass without pressure. The pick he threw was a result of the half sack he was sustaining while throwing. Also he didn't seem to have receivers open on multiple plays. You could see him check down the progression twice and have to end up running....which he does pretty well.


Like I said, I'm no COC or PJ member but I actually think Colt's performance was a bright spot yesterday. I thought he has improved since last preseason. He moved effectively in the pocket, that's mandatory with our o-line, and he had the demeanor of a QB that's efficient at moving the ball downfield.


I still want Campbell as our starter but I think that people are mistaken when acting as if Colt did terribly yesterday. Watch the game again, every play there's someone in his face...at the end he starts bracing for hits he knew he was about to take.

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I think we've got bigger things to worry about than how the #3 QB is playing. I know a lot of people love him but really, I could care less right now.

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Hey Skinny Tee, are you in the CoC?

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I haven't watched the game yet (it does not replay on NFLN until 3pm today), but as far as Colt Brennan goes ... the honest answer is that he did not play that well last preseason. Everyone got all excited, but I think if you went back and watched the games again you would see a QB who did not get through his progressions and who made some ill advised throws. Some of them (I am especially thinking of that stick throw to the tight end across the middle and managed to go for a reception) were caught and made nice highlights. He got away with some stuff last year, that's all I'm saying. Having not watched the Ravens game yet, I would be very surprised if he actually did not play better and demonstrate a better grasp of the offense.

Bottom line, the hype last year was way overblown and ignored what was actually happening on the film (a nice box score does not a franchise QB make). I suspect the same could be said in reverse after this first game (as you seem to indicate).

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[quote=Mattyk72;575723]I think we've got bigger things to worry about than how the #3 QB is playing. I know a lot of people love him but really, I could care less right now.[/quote]

Well said. He sucked last nite and Collins looked good. Collins will be the 2nd QB going into the season, but we got alot more to worry about than talking about 3rd stringers.

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A lot of Colt's reputation is built on "he can make plays regardless of pressure and how his offensive line is performing (or not performing"...that wasn't the case yesterday.

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He is a gammer, but even that couldn't help him out last night.

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I was more disappointed in the play of defensive starters. Given the fact Haynesworth was not in, the fact Baltimore, moved the ball at will was quite concerning to me. Good news for me is I thought the offensive line protected the QB well in the first half. Kudos to Chad Rhinehart. If I am Randy Thomas, I am a bit more worried this morning.

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Colt looked flustered and rushed last night. He was able to get out of a few plays with his legs, something Campbell and Collins don't do well. Other than that, he's still green. But as others have said, there are much more worries than how the #3 did in the 1st preseason game...

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;575773]I was more disappointed in the play of defensive starters. Given the fact Haynesworth was not in, the fact Baltimore, moved the ball at will was quite concerning to me. Good news for me is I thought the offensive line protected the QB well in the first half. Kudos to Chad Rhinehart. If I am Randy Thomas, I am a bit more worried this morning.[/quote]

Rinehart was a pleasant surprise. Looks like the reports out of camp weren't just hype.

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I feel sorry for Colt. His time in the limelight did not go well.

But maybe last night will chill the members of the Cult of Colt, so we can focus on more important things, as Matty said.

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[quote=Mattyk72;575723]I think we've got bigger things to worry about than how the #3 QB is playing. I know a lot of people love him but really, I could care less right now.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly, but Ive heard enough of the PJ should be JC's backup. He didnt have alot of time, but when he did...he was indecisive. Maybe next game he will get the #2 slot, so they can better judge his progress. He did move pretty well, but his arm is still doo-doo.

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I agree with a lot of the posts above me, I think that if you want to see how good Colt really is, put him in with better WR's and no devin clark or scott burley. He made great plays with his legs and is a lot more agile than I thought he'd be. threw a desperate int, and played against a better Defense than he did last preseason. Interesting to see how he does against the steelers D next week.

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Played a qtr,i hear he was sacked 3 times... Its the CURSE OF JESSICA SIMPSON!!

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Collins beats Colt hands down!

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This is the reason he is third string

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I love Colt Brennan. He has some "Favre" in him. I think he is the most exciting signal caller of the 3 by far.

I am not saying he should be our starter but I would love to see him get a series or two with the first team.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;575916]Collins beats Colt hands down![/quote]


I am not disputing this but why don't the coaches give him two series with the first team. If he should be the #3 he would prove it, right?

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;575750]I haven't watched the game yet (it does not replay on NFLN until 3pm today), but as far as Colt Brennan goes ... the honest answer is that he did not play that well last preseason. Everyone got all excited, but I think if you went back and watched the games again you would see a QB who did not get through his progressions and who made some ill advised throws. Some of them (I am especially thinking of that stick throw to the tight end across the middle and managed to go for a reception) were caught and made nice highlights. He got away with some stuff last year, that's all I'm saying. Having not watched the Ravens game yet, I would be very surprised if he actually did not play better and demonstrate a better grasp of the offense.

Bottom line, the hype last year was way overblown and ignored what was actually happening on the film (a nice box score does not a franchise QB make). I suspect the same could be said in reverse after this first game (as you seem to indicate).[/quote]

SC Fan if I was you I would not wast my time watching that game and just start fresh next week with hopefully a better game. I think I'd scratch my eye's out if I had to sit through that again.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;575946]I am not disputing this but why don't the coaches give him two series with the first team. If he should be the #3 he would prove it, right?[/quote]

I've no problem with that.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;575946]I am not disputing this but why don't the coaches give him two series with the first team. If he should be the #3 he would prove it, right?[/quote]

He'll probably get a shot in one of these games to come in earlier, but I don't think it's going to change much.

I think Zorn already knows Collins is his #2 and CB is the #3.

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[quote=Mattyk72;575973]He'll probably get a shot in one of these games to come in earlier, but I don't think it's going to change much.

I think Zorn already knows Collins is his #2 and CB is the #3.[/quote]

You are probably right and I was very happy with what I saw from Collins. He is a true pro and I think we are lucky to have him.

Colt may not get the first stringers around him but it would be great theatre.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;575916]Collins beats Colt hands down![/quote]

If Collins keeps getting the protection which Colt isn't getting, then yeah, he will be 2nd and Colt will be third. Is it just me or does TC's passes take forever to get to the WR, and just hang up in the air forever. Last I checked, the west coast offense is about quick short passes and quick timing. Not short high lobs.

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Im sure the QBs will rotate with the different strings on O.

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Cut him immediately.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;576000]If Collins keeps getting the protection which Colt isn't getting, then yeah, he will be 2nd and Colt will be third. Is it just me or does TC's passes take forever to get to the WR, and just hang up in the air forever. Last I checked, the west coast offense is about quick short passes and quick timing. Not short high lobs.[/quote]


Whether or not the passes ever make it to the receiver is pretty important too :)

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[quote=Dirtbag359;576013]Cut him immediately.[/quote]

Yeah that makes sence. If we cut every player who didnt do well last night we wouldnt have a team left.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;576000]If Collins keeps getting the protection which Colt isn't getting, then yeah, he will be 2nd and Colt will be third. Is it just me or does TC's passes take forever to get to the WR, and just hang up in the air forever. Last I checked, the west coast offense is about quick short passes and quick timing. [B]Not short high lobs[/B].[/quote]

Are you talking about Collins or Campbell?

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;576017]Yeah that makes sence. If we cut every player who didnt do well last night we wouldnt have a team left.[/quote]

I'm sure you would be asking for JC to be cut if he had played like Colt. LOL.

But you are right, a lot of people screwed up last nite, and well hopefully they will learn from their mistakes now where it doesn't count.

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[quote=Ruhskins;576022]I'm sure you would be asking for JC to be cut if he had played like Colt. LOL.

But you are right, a lot of people screwed up last nite, and well hopefully they will learn from their mistakes now where it doesn't count.[/quote]

I wouldnt expect much from any of our qbs if they were sacked 3 times in a qtr. hard to do well when you are running from your life. Its not like any of our QB's faired much better. TC was solid,JC had some good throws but he also had some misfires -overthrew a wide open wr on the sideline- and CB had a pick. it is what it is, other than RAK and Jarmon the team as a whole stunk it up last night. hopefully its out of their system for the next game.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;576037]I wouldnt expect much from any of our qbs if they were sacked 3 times in a qtr. hard to do well when you are running from your life. Its not like any of our QB's faired much better. TC was solid,JC had some good throws but he also had some misfires [B]-overthrew a wide open wr on the sideline-[/B] and CB had a pick. it is what it is, other than RAK and Jarmon the team as a whole stunk it up last night. hopefully its out of their system for the next game.[/quote]

The way I saw it, that was on Hagans. The throw was high but an NFL receiver should make that catch.

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[quote=Chico23231;575751]Well said. He sucked last nite and Collins looked good. Collins will be the 2nd QB going into the season, but we got alot more to worry about than talking about 3rd stringers.[/quote]

Then why are we (well you all cause I don't watch preseason) watching PRESEASON games? If we're not going to discuss 3rd stringers, or 2nd stringers, then why bother watching at all in the preseason...the whole point of preseason is to see who makes those spots.

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[quote=Lotus;576051]The way I saw it, that was on Hagans. The throw was high but an NFL receiver should make that catch.[/quote]

Interesting thing on that is if it had been Thomas or Kelly in that spot, both of who are 4-6 inches taller, that throw would have been right on the money.

Time will tell, but I am starting to think this game will fade into dark very quickly, and the team will be better from it.
(credits to 53Fan for my overcoming the post game malaise)

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Time will tell, but I am starting to think this game will fade into dark very quickly, and the team will be better from it.
(credits to 53Fan for my overcoming the post game malaise)[/quote]

That's a way of thinking positive! Just remember, IT'S PRESEASON! Don't forget the Skins looked BADASS in the preseason when Spurrier was coach. How did that translate into the season??? (ugly!)

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I like what Doc Walker had to say about Colt -that he wasn't afraid to throw the ball downfield and take chances. Colt did fine under the circumstances with the pass rush he was under and other challenges. Colt I believe is the future for the Redskins - the starter for 2010.

This year is going to be difficult if the offensive line isn't able to make a lot more progress. I think we need to sign one of the free agents that are out there for more depth.

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[quote=Westover;576090]I like what Doc Walker had to say about Colt -that he wasn't afraid to throw the ball downfield and take chances. Colt did fine under the circumstances with the pass rush he was under and other challenges. Colt I believe is the future for the Redskins - the starter for 2010.[/quote]

Well it is pretty easy to take chance in a preseason game against the opponent's third team defense. I think Colt has a lot to learn, and while I want him to succeed, hopefully we will not see him as a starter for a couple of years more for the good of the team.

[quote=Westover;576090]This year is going to be difficult if the offensive line isn't able to make a lot more progress. I think we need to sign one of the free agents that are out there for more depth.[/quote]

While it is the first game of the preseason, in the two series against Baltimore's first team defense, the offensive line looked pretty good. I'd like to see more of them during the preseason before we decide to spend $$ on a lineman.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;576056]Interesting thing on that is[B] if it had been Thomas or Kelly in that spot, both of who are 4-6 inches taller, that throw would have been right on the money. [/B]

Time will tell, but I am starting to think this game will fade into dark very quickly, and the team will be better from it.
(credits to 53Fan for my overcoming the post game malaise)[/quote]

We can all IF this thing to death to make a case for our fav players.
IF the wr was taller he would have made the play for JC
IF the wr wasnt mugged by the db and had his head up to see the ball CB wouldnt have thrown a pick.
IF the TE on the seem route catches the ball he is off to the races.
IF our secondary was better we wouldnt have given up 100 yd games to THREE different QB's.

Fact is, the team as a whole has a long way to go. we were outplayed and outcoached.

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[quote=Lotus;576051]The way I saw it, that was on Hagans. The throw was high but an NFL receiver should make that catch.[/quote]

2 sides there... a Hagans fan might say a NFL QB should be able to hit a wide open wr on the numbers.. just sayin.:)

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A Hagans fan should also be looking at UFL season ticket prices.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;576019]Are you talking about Collins or Campbell?[/quote]

Collins. Campbells got a good arm.