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Tahoe Skin 11-11-2004 02:09 PM

Selfishness, or Team Player??
 
"I've played a long time, and I've had a lot of success," said Brunell, who at the midpoint of the season is among the NFL's lowest-ranked passers. "I'm certainly not going to let [eight] games of not having the statistics that I want take any confidence away from me. I'm very confident in what I can do and how I can play this game."

[url]http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20041111-015331-6755r.htm[/url]

ChounsMan 11-11-2004 02:26 PM

Confidence is one thing, & ability is another.

Confidence allows you to suit up & prepare for a game.

Ability allows you to perform & win!

So far Mark has only shown me that confidence gets you to the game. I thought ability was just supposed to come natural..?

I think Mark needs to check himself at the door this week & bring it for once!

Riggo44 11-11-2004 02:38 PM

At least somone has confidence. :( I know I don't. I hope I am wrong. But I don't think I am.

ChounsMan 11-11-2004 02:49 PM

Riggo that was a great comment!! LOL

You just need to think like Thomas the Steam Engine. :)

"I think I can, I think I can, I know I can..."

MTK 11-11-2004 02:53 PM

What else is he supposed to say?

He's got to keep his chin up and keep battling.

I'd be more concerned if he was questioning himself.

CROOKEDSKINS 11-11-2004 03:11 PM

he might think he can still play
gibbs might too
but does anyone else on the team still believe he can still play
i would have to think no

Tahoe Skin 11-11-2004 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]What else is he supposed to say?

He's got to keep his chin up and keep battling.

I'd be more concerned if he was questioning himself.[/QUOTE]

Not me. I'd be happier with him taking a more realistic stance and say something like: I know I'm playing horrible and for the good of the team I'm asking Coach to start Patrick Ramsey the next game or two and see if he can turn OUR team around.

VTSkins897 11-11-2004 05:07 PM

that'll never happen. 'skins put themselves in a real rut by not only getting him, but paying him so much that they'll look like idiots for benching him. how many years of questionable free agency moves have we made? probably the same number of yrs that danny has been around. george, r. johnson, matthews, banks etc. etc. of course some of these are the coach's responsibility granted. when are we gonna learn to just let a young gunner learn? (carr, roethlisberger, brees). swallow your pride gibbs and put ramsey in the game... stop looking like a fool with that anemic o.

Daseal 11-11-2004 05:09 PM

He has confidence? Take a good look at him, he's emotionally drained. He doesn't have that killer instinct anymore.

VTSkins897 11-11-2004 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=Daseal]He has confidence? Take a good look at him, he's emotionally drained. He doesn't have that killer instinct anymore.[/QUOTE]

yeah and it's like it all builds on him like "oh great what else can go wrong?"
i had that same feeling with spurrier too... just seemed to snowball on the guy and brunell is in the same position today.

SmootSmack 11-11-2004 05:28 PM

didn't Kerry Collins do something similar when he was with Carolina? He went and told Capers that he didn't have it in him to be the starter, then he was cut a couple of days later. Of course, his alcoholism could have been a factor

memphisskin 11-11-2004 06:12 PM

I like that he's confident, and I hope we see some results soon enough. He's performed well in the past, there does seem to be some kind of disconnect going on. I definitely don't think he's all of a sudden washed up, hopefully this is just an 8 game blip. Well 7 game, he did hit the Cowpokes for 325 didn't he? How'd he do that?

SmootSmack 11-11-2004 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=memphisskin]I like that he's confident, and I hope we see some results soon enough. He's performed well in the past, there does seem to be some kind of disconnect going on. I definitely don't think he's all of a sudden washed up, hopefully this is just an 8 game blip. Well 7 game, he did hit the Cowpokes for 325 didn't he? How'd he do that?[/QUOTE]

how [u]did[/u] he do that?

manicd 11-11-2004 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]didn't Kerry Collins do something similar when he was with Carolina? He went and told Capers that he didn't have it in him to be the starter, then he was cut a couple of days later. Of course, his alcoholism could have been a factor[/QUOTE]


Hmmm. Alcoholism you say. If anybody sees Brunell while you're out, buy that man a drink, and let em keep on coming. Great plan Smootsmack.

SUNRA 11-11-2004 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]didn't Kerry Collins do something similar when he was with Carolina? He went and told Capers that he didn't have it in him to be the starter, then he was cut a couple of days later. Of course, his alcoholism could have been a factor[/QUOTE]

More like his racist comments about some of his teammates.

SmootSmack 11-11-2004 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=SUNRA]More like his racist comments about some of his teammates.[/QUOTE]

You know I vaguely recollect that incident. Could you give us more details on that SUNRA?

SUNRA 11-11-2004 07:39 PM

[QUOTE=Daseal]He has confidence? Take a good look at him, he's emotionally drained. He doesn't have that killer instinct anymore.[/QUOTE]

Even with Brunell's QB rating I still don't see him as the worst QB in the league. Turnovers and sacks are still a key point for me to rate him. Even at 5-3, Giants' fans are calling for Kurt Warner's head after the loss to the Lions. His QB rating is like in the top ten of the league. Sacks: 33, INTs: 5, fumbles: 7 Hmmmm. And Testerverde is old and in the top 5 for passing yardage. But Parcells is not having the turnovers. This to me seems to be what Coach Gibbs rejects the most from a QB. Stupid mistakes. If Ramsey comes in at any point of this season, I'm willing to bet he will be sacked more than Brunell and will throw the ball into double coverage. That's why he's not playing.

SUNRA 11-11-2004 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]You know I vaguely recollect that incident. Could you give us more details on that SUNRA?[/QUOTE]

Some teammates of Collins overheard him making derogatory comments about certain sterotypical traits of black players and those teammates reported it to the front office. That's the jist of it.

ChounsMan 11-12-2004 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=SUNRA]Some teammates of Collins overheard him making derogatory comments about certain sterotypical traits of black players and those teammates reported it to the front office. That's the jist of it.[/QUOTE]

I remember that. Kerry was sold out :cussing:
He had not choice but leave Carolina. Once your 'black listed' (and that was not racist joke on this certain topic we are discussing) Kerry had to leave & start over.


Kerry was great at Penn State, to bad he never dominated like that in the NFL.


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