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GMScud 12-23-2010 10:49 PM

McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/donovan-mcnabb/donovan-mcnabbs-agent-blasts-t.html#more]Redskins Insider - Donovan McNabb's agent blasts the Shanahans[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/23/mike-shanahan-responds-to-fletcher-smith/]Mike Shanahan responds to Fletcher Smith | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I was surprised there wasn't a thread on this yet.

I get what Fletcher Smith is doing. And I hear what Shanahan is saying. McNabb has said all the right things, but his agent works for him. If he didn't want Smith saying those things about KS and MS, Smith wouldn't have.

The Shanahans have blundered seriously this year. My way or the highway is okay to an extent, but you have to blend that kind of style with deft management of personalities (see New England. Same attitude, no leaks, no malcontents). And in that department, we have failed. They've acted like stubborn jerks at times this year, with ego prevailing.

I was hoping the Skins were finally being run by adults. I'm still not so sure. The dysfunction this year seems just as bad or worse as in year's past.

skinsfaninok 12-23-2010 10:54 PM

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Bottom line... We are 5-9 and Mcnabb hasn't played well. Grossman comes in and throws 4 Tds and 330 yards

If we were 9-5 he would still be the starter

Schneed10 12-23-2010 11:03 PM

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I don't mind the my way or the highway approach. Shanahan's nothing if not decisive.

McNabb has given us the deep ball this year, that's about it. He's slow in his drops away from center, DEs are usually turning the corner by the time he's at the top of his drop. He's as erratic as ever on the short throws, skipping them at the feet of receivers. He's not making his reads fast enough. And he's lost quite a bit of mobility.

I see why Andy Reid didn't mind trading him within the division.

I don't fault Shanahan for this decision whatsoever, and could care less how McNabb feels about it. What sucks is that QB guru Shanahan couldn't see that McNabb was done BEFORE making the trade for him.

GMScud 12-23-2010 11:36 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;772021]I don't mind the my way or the highway approach. Shanahan's nothing if not decisive.

McNabb has given us the deep ball this year, that's about it. He's slow in his drops away from center, DEs are usually turning the corner by the time he's at the top of his drop. He's as erratic as ever on the short throws, skipping them at the feet of receivers. He's not making his reads fast enough. And he's lost quite a bit of mobility.

I see why Andy Reid didn't mind trading him within the division.

I don't fault Shanahan for this decision whatsoever, and could care less how McNabb feels about it. [B]What sucks is that QB guru Shanahan couldn't see that McNabb was done BEFORE making the trade for him.[/B][/quote]

Agreed. Shanny's only signature move thus far has been a gigantic fail on many levels- giving up such important picks to get McNabb, the week 8 benching and ensuing joke of an explanation, and the recent McNabb fiasco. Really piss poor.

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.

Ruhskins 12-23-2010 11:43 PM

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This is terrible, just terrible.

SirClintonPortis 12-23-2010 11:51 PM

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Shanahan the coach's decision is not a bad decision, although reducing him to "scout team" dude is kind of excessive.
Shanahan the PR guy and GM deserve marks of "needs improvement".

Some fans should realize that the younger Shanahan is less patient than them. :D

skinsfaninok 12-23-2010 11:57 PM

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Mike wants players that produce on the field, Donovan wasn't producing therefor he was benched twice. I like 5 and always have but he was very poor in about 10 games this season.. Maybe Kyle just can't get along with him idk but I did find it a little odd that Rex got more screens and short passes last week.

FRPLG 12-24-2010 12:05 AM

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Memo to Donovan. Having your agent do the dirty work so you can still call yourself "professional" is bullsh*t. If you want to take the high-ground then you take it. You don't travel it and send your friends and family the other way. Pathetic...you sucked this year and Shanny sat you. You got what you earned. This organization didn't owe you some magical level of respect for deeds that you did for another team. The Eagles sh*t on your head and you said nothing and neither did your agent. THEY owed you respect for what you did for them. You haven't done crap for the Redskins so don't fool yourself into thinking you have earned one iota of respect from the team or fans. You got your ass outplayed by Rex f'ing Grossman. Get over your diva ass and don' let the door hit ya on the way out.

Hog1 12-24-2010 12:09 AM

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[quote=GMScud;772024]Agreed. [B]Shanny's only signature move thus far has been a gigantic fail on many levels-[/B] giving up such important picks to get McNabb, the week 8 benching and ensuing joke of an explanation, and the recent McNabb fiasco. Really piss poor.

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.[/quote]
How do you classify the Trent Williams pick?
Fail? Non-signature move?

skinsfaninok 12-24-2010 12:12 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;772028]Memo to Donovan. Having your agent do the dirty work so you can still call yourself "professional" is bullsh*t. If you want to take the high-ground then you take it. You don't travel it and send your friends and family the other way. Pathetic...you sucked this year and Shanny sat you. You got what you earned. This organization didn't owe you some magical level of respect for deeds that you did for another team. The Eagles sh*t on your head and you said nothing and neither did your agent. THEY owed you respect for what you did for them. You haven't done crap for the Redskins so don't fool yourself into thinking you have earned one iota of respect from the team or fans. You got your ass outplayed by Rex f'ing Grossman. Get over your diva ass and don' let the door hit ya on the way out.[/quote]


AMEN!

Tell us how u really feel lmao

Hog1 12-24-2010 12:26 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;772028]Memo to Donovan. Having your agent do the dirty work so you can still call yourself "professional" is bullsh*t. If you want to take the high-ground then you take it. You don't travel it and send your friends and family the other way. Pathetic...you sucked this year and Shanny sat you. You got what you earned. This organization didn't owe you some magical level of respect for deeds that you did for another team. The Eagles sh*t on your head and you said nothing and neither did your agent. THEY owed you respect for what you did for them. You haven't done crap for the Redskins so don't fool yourself into thinking you have earned one iota of respect from the team or fans. You got your ass outplayed by Rex f'ing Grossman. Get over your diva ass and don' let the door hit ya on the way out.[/quote]

NICE post F.
DM is a politician....I don't think Shanny gives a damn...I like that.
It's a shame DM's play could not match his..........rhetoric.

SirClintonPortis 12-24-2010 12:33 AM

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[quote=Hog1;772033]NICE post F.
DM is a politician....I don't think Shanny gives a damn...I like that.
It's a shame DM's play could not match his..........rhetoric.[/quote]

They all are. Shanahan knows how to play the game just as well. Seriously, who believes the fluff that he isn't going to make McNabb run the scout team? Of course McNabb will be doing that.

Hog1 12-24-2010 12:48 AM

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Well..I think Shanny would like to get a....do-over on the McNabb trade. He alluded to as much in his post game presser (I think). That ones on him, no doubt. But to his credit, he did not shy away for the responsibility of the deal.
Who knows, maybe as a stop gap measure the Rex thing can be made to work until a francise guy can be had.

Dirtbag59 12-24-2010 01:03 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=FRPLG;772028]Memo to Donovan. Having your agent do the dirty work so you can still call yourself "professional" is bullsh*t. If you want to take the high-ground then you take it. You don't travel it and send your friends and family the other way. Pathetic...you sucked this year and Shanny sat you. You got what you earned. This organization didn't owe you some magical level of respect for deeds that you did for another team. The Eagles sh*t on your head and you said nothing and neither did your agent. THEY owed you respect for what you did for them. You haven't done crap for the Redskins so don't fool yourself into thinking you have earned one iota of respect from the team or fans. You got your ass outplayed by Rex f'ing Grossman. Get over your diva ass and don' let the door hit ya on the way out.[/quote]

Seriously, if this was the first time he had come out and said something about the coaching staff I could have understood but this is at least the second time McNabb's agent has come out and complained. However if I'm not mistaken the Kyle Shanahan outburst might be his third public tirade.

The agent works for McNabb and if McNabb is really trying to take the high road then he should put the muzzle on his agent.

Never would have thought a guy named Fletcher could do something like this.

Redskin Warrior 12-24-2010 01:25 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
All along i wanted to keep JC for a year or two on the roster and draft younger players. So we could've have the pieces in place for 2011 or 2012 franchise QB. I like McNabb and hoped he would help but we could've used those draft picks on OL or other holes. Waters under the bridge i guess but they need to use Grossman the same way then.

Bucket 12-24-2010 01:28 AM

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Wah.. His Agent complains..

This is football, and Shanahan is looking for people who practice hard, and play harder. Fatty Al, and Mcnabb were doing neither.

The reason why it seems that Shanahan "handled" it poorly is because the media stretches everything way out there. Shanny has said it doesn't matter if you are making 1 million or 1 dollar. The best players will play, and those who give the msot effort.

I applaud Shanny for what he's done so far. I'm excited for the future. No longer will we have overpaid veterans who consider a practice to be 30 minutes on the bike, or 15 minutes in the ice tub.

30gut 12-24-2010 01:52 AM

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The Donovan McNabb deal has not worked out for anyone.
Everyone looks bad.
McNabb looks bad, Mike Shanahan looks bad but Kyle Shanahan comes out looking the worst.
I'm ready to move on to our next QB.
John Beck, Jack Locker, Blaine Gabbert

Giantone 12-24-2010 04:06 AM

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[quote=GMScud;772024]
And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.[/quote]

The thought on Haynesworth was he waited to long but as for McNabb he blew it .

skins89moss 12-24-2010 04:34 AM

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A players agent would never put out a statement before aproval from his client. This staement was approved through Mcnabb and this is how he feels. Well this is football and no coach or player is owed anything accept your game check. How many times has a player given back his game check for playing poorly. I bet never. Shanny is the HC and he is responsible for this team and how they proform. McNabb started 13 games but we have only won 5 games and the Tampa Bay game we should have ran them out of FedEx after running for 150 yards in the 1st half but could not get in the end zone. A QB is judge on wins and loses in the NFL and with our terrible defense we have no room for error on offense. We need to know who are starter is going to be next season and if he is even on the 2010 roster. I support Shanny and McNabb can sit and collect his check while most americans dont even have a job. You get played a kings ransom to play a game stop bitching and moaning about being disrepected when you make millions of dollars.

Bigreds77 12-24-2010 06:04 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;772042]All along i wanted to keep JC for a year or two on the roster and draft younger players. So we could've have the pieces in place for 2011 or 2012 franchise QB. I like McNabb and hoped he would help but we could've used those draft picks on OL or other holes. Waters under the bridge i guess but they need to use Grossman the same way then.[/quote]

A guy wears a DM jersey but now he says he wanted to keep JC........come on man.You people are all Vinnies you want WRs & QBs while the OL suffers.

Longtimefan 12-24-2010 06:15 AM

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The only winner in this deal is the Eagles, it underscores why they're atop the division and their future looks upward. They get two draft picks [of ours] to further boost an already existing division leader, we get more drama.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/23/AR2010122305826.html]Donovan McNabb's agent says quarterback undermined by Redskins' Kyle Shanahan[/url]

Dirtbag59 12-24-2010 06:44 AM

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[quote=Bigreds77;772048]A guy wears a DM jersey but now he says he wanted to keep JC........come on man.You people are all Vinnies you want WRs & QBs while the OL suffers.[/quote]

You're mixed up on the Vinny methodology which says draft receivers and defensive players early and no lineman in the later rounds. People here want to draft O-Lineman we just don't want to use every first round pick for the next 3 or 4 years trying to put together this pipe dream super line while ignoring the other areas of our team. Particularly the most important position in the game as well as the front 7 of our new and improved 3-4 defense.

Also keep in mind we have not ignored the lines. Just this past offseason we used a top 5 pick and two 7th round picks on prospects. We then traded a 3rd round pick for a 1st round talent, which leaves us with first round bookends. We also brought in a former 4th round pick of Shanahan's that is currently starting in his 3rd year. In all we added 6 new players to our team and that was in one offseason, but apparently if someone doesn't want to dedicate every first round pick for the next decade to the offensive line they get labeled a Vinny.

skinsguy 12-24-2010 08:55 AM

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[quote=Longtimefan;772049]The only winner in this deal is the Eagles, it underscores why they're atop the division and their future looks upward. They get two draft picks [of ours] to further boost an already existing division leader, we get more drama.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/23/AR2010122305826.html]Donovan McNabb's agent says quarterback undermined by Redskins' Kyle Shanahan[/url][/quote]

Two? I thought they only get our fourth and the Saints (I think it was the Saints) get our third?

Longtimefan 12-24-2010 09:25 AM

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[quote=skinsguy;772051]Two? I thought they only get our fourth and the Saints (I think it was the Saints) get our third?[/quote]

By two, I mean two draft picks surrendered in the trade for McNabb, a 2nd rp in 2010 and a conditional pick in the upcoming draft.

firstdown 12-24-2010 09:27 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=GMScud;772017][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/donovan-mcnabb/donovan-mcnabbs-agent-blasts-t.html#more"]Redskins Insider - Donovan McNabb's agent blasts the Shanahans[/URL]

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/23/mike-shanahan-responds-to-fletcher-smith/"]Mike Shanahan responds to Fletcher Smith | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

I was surprised there wasn't a thread on this yet.

I get what Fletcher Smith is doing. And I hear what Shanahan is saying. McNabb has said all the right things, but his agent works for him. If he didn't want Smith saying those things about KS and MS, Smith wouldn't have.

The Shanahans have blundered seriously this year. My way or the highway is okay to an extent, but you have to blend that kind of style with deft management of personalities (see New England. Same attitude, no leaks, no malcontents). And in that department, we have failed. They've acted like stubborn jerks at times this year, with ego prevailing.

I was hoping the Skins were finally being run by adults. I'm still not so sure. The dysfunction this year seems just as bad or worse as in year's past.[/quote]

F^%k McNabb and F^%K Mgr Smith. We had heard over and over again how McNabb would not listen to the coaches about speeding things up and playing with a tempo. Maybe that explains why McNabb has been tripped up so many time under center. He has played like shit and I have seen enough balls bouncing in the dirt. So tell McNabb and his agent to go F%$K them self for a merry christmas.

So From all of Washington to McNabb and Smith.

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d183/suicide_notes_and_butterfly_kisses_/9abdcb46.jpg[/IMG]

On a side note does anyone think that McNabb might be gay. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay.

Hog1 12-24-2010 10:32 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;772027]Mike wants players that produce on the field, Donovan wasn't producing therefor he was benched twice. I like 5 and always have but he was very poor in about 10 games this season.. Maybe Kyle just can't get along with him idk but I did find it a little odd that [B]Rex got more screens and short passes last week[/B].[/quote]

Perhaps DM5 just was not in condition for short passes and screens?

firstdown 12-24-2010 10:42 AM

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[quote=Hog1;772073]Perhaps DM5 just was not in condition for short passes and screens?[/quote]
Or because he seems to bounce those balls to the WRs.

GMScud 12-24-2010 10:59 AM

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[quote=Longtimefan;772049]The only winner in this deal is the Eagles, it underscores why they're atop the division and their future looks upward. They get two draft picks [of ours] to further boost an already existing division leader, we get more drama.

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/23/AR2010122305826.html"]Donovan McNabb's agent says quarterback undermined by Redskins' Kyle Shanahan[/URL][/quote]

I don't care what Shanny did over a decade ago in Denver. Right now, Andy Reid > Mike Shanahan.

Philly fans are laughing out loud at us right now. There's a reason Reid didn't bat an eye at shipping McNabb to a division rival.

Merry Xmas, Redskins fans!

firstdown 12-24-2010 11:21 AM

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[quote=GMScud;772077]I don't care what Shanny did over a decade ago in Denver. Right now, Andy Reid > Mike Shanahan.

Philly fans are laughing out loud at us right now. There's a reason Reid didn't bat an eye at shipping McNabb to a division rival.

Merry Xmas, Redskins fans![/quote]

While I agree Reid is a good coach he also got lucky. Even he didn't know that MV was going to do a 100% turn around from last year. If he did MV would have been named the starting QB from day one. I don't think he got rid of McNabb because he was washed up I think he wanted to develop his young QB and move toward the future. Then MV threw him for a loop and he had to change his mind.

Player_HTTR 12-24-2010 11:25 AM

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If it was Jason Campbell playing like this everyone would be screaming for Rex to start. Just because everyone is supposed to think McNabb is great and treat him with cotton candy care doesn't mean that in reality he didn't have plenty of oppurtunity to not get benched. F off #5, play better. YOU didn't get disrespected, YOU played worse than the guy that everyone was screaming to get rid of before the season.

Brody81 12-24-2010 11:25 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=GMScud;772017][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/donovan-mcnabb/donovan-mcnabbs-agent-blasts-t.html#more]Redskins Insider - Donovan McNabb's agent blasts the Shanahans[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/23/mike-shanahan-responds-to-fletcher-smith/]Mike Shanahan responds to Fletcher Smith | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I was surprised there wasn't a thread on this yet.

I get what Fletcher Smith is doing. And I hear what Shanahan is saying. McNabb has said all the right things, but his agent works for him. If he didn't want Smith saying those things about KS and MS, Smith wouldn't have.

The Shanahans have blundered seriously this year. My way or the highway is okay to an extent, but you have to blend that kind of style with deft management of personalities (see New England. Same attitude, no leaks, no malcontents). And in that department, we have failed. They've acted like stubborn jerks at times this year, with ego prevailing.

I was hoping the Skins were finally being run by adults. I'm still not so sure. The dysfunction this year seems just as bad or worse as in year's past.[/quote]

How have they blundered anything in regards to McNabb? What respect does he deserve? He is a 5-9 Redskins QB that has sucked all year. Why should MS respect a guy that won't run his system, or disagrees with plays that are called. An example would be me getting fired from my current company, and then rehired from another, and in the first year I disagree with how they run the company, and stop listening to my direct boss.... I would be fired immediately. Kudos to the way MS handles cry baby players, and kudos to Kyle for demanding DM benching.

htownskinfan 12-24-2010 11:25 AM

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The whole situation is fked up,neither side has handled it well.Yes mcnabb has not played well but you gave up 2 big draft picks to get him then you treat him like dirt.I said months ago Shanahans ego is out of control and I still believe it.He should have never been allowed to hire his son,thats a recipe for disaster if there ever was one.How do you think he's going to handle any criticism of his son? Not very ****ing well.He'll never fire his son no matter how bad he sucks,it will always,always be the qb's fault and not his sons.Another stupid stupid move by the organization

MTK 12-24-2010 11:27 AM

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Reid traded McNabb because he had one year left on his deal and they knew they weren't going to re-sign him with Kolb waiting in the wings. I know it's more fun to believe Reid had some sort of diabolical plan in place and thought DM was washed up, even though he was coming off a season where he threw for 3553 yards, 22 TDs, and 10 INTs, and his highest QB rating since 2006.

I don't care what anyone says, DM can still play in this league, he just wasn't a good fit here for a variety of reasons. Shit happens. All this other drama now is just girlie tabloid crap.

Chico23231 12-24-2010 11:30 AM

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Looking back at how the Shannys and Bruce have handled both Albert and McNabb havent really gone that well. We could have at least gotten a 3rd rounder for Albert b4 the season, I dont think we will get that now and the whole benching of McNabb for Rex for the final drive whateva sh*t game that was and now the public spat going on will drive down any price we were hoping to get for him.

What do we get for these players now? 5th or 6th rounders? God thats piss poor.

Brody81 12-24-2010 11:30 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=FRPLG;772028]Memo to Donovan. Having your agent do the dirty work so you can still call yourself "professional" is bullsh*t. If you want to take the high-ground then you take it. You don't travel it and send your friends and family the other way. Pathetic...you sucked this year and Shanny sat you. You got what you earned. This organization didn't owe you some magical level of respect for deeds that you did for another team. The Eagles sh*t on your head and you said nothing and neither did your agent. THEY owed you respect for what you did for them. You haven't done crap for the Redskins so don't fool yourself into thinking you have earned one iota of respect from the team or fans. You got your ass outplayed by Rex f'ing Grossman. Get over your diva ass and don' let the door hit ya on the way out.[/quote]

Thank You!!

GMScud 12-24-2010 11:33 AM

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[quote=Hog1;772029]How do you classify the Trent Williams pick?
Fail? Non-signature move?[/quote]

I would classify it as a non-signature move. O-line was our biggest deficiency, and Trent was the best player available at tackle. Good pick for sure, but certainly not a signature move. The only time I'd really call a draft pick a "signature move" so to speak would be something along the lines of taking a QB #1 overall.

GMScud 12-24-2010 11:35 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=Brody81;772082][B]How have they blundered anything in regards to McNabb?[/B] What respect does he deserve? He is a 5-9 Redskins QB that has sucked all year. Why should MS respect a guy that won't run his system, or disagrees with plays that are called. An example would be me getting fired from my current company, and then rehired from another, and in the first year I disagree with how they run the company, and stop listening to my direct boss.... I would be fired immediately. Kudos to the way MS handles cry baby players, and kudos to Kyle for demanding DM benching.[/quote]

Well, the knee jerk reaction of benching him in the Detroit game, and then the totally pathetic "reasoning" Shanahan came up with- he wasn't in "cardiovascular shape" to run the 2 minute drill, Rex knows it better, etc etc. That was a huge blunder IMO.

Brody81 12-24-2010 11:36 AM

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[quote=Bucket;772043]Wah.. His Agent complains..

This is football, and Shanahan is looking for people who practice hard, and play harder. Fatty Al, and Mcnabb were doing neither.

The reason why it seems that Shanahan "handled" it poorly is because the media stretches everything way out there. Shanny has said it doesn't matter if you are making 1 million or 1 dollar. The best players will play, and those who give the msot effort.

I applaud Shanny for what he's done so far. I'm excited for the future. No longer will we have overpaid veterans who consider a practice to be 30 minutes on the bike, or 15 minutes in the ice tub.[/quote]
^^^
Comments like this make me feel confident we still have knowledgeable fans in DC.

MTK 12-24-2010 11:38 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=Brody81;772082]How have they blundered anything in regards to McNabb? What respect does he deserve? He is a 5-9 Redskins QB that has sucked all year. Why should MS respect a guy that won't run his system, or disagrees with plays that are called. An example would be me getting fired from my current company, and then rehired from another, and in the first year I disagree with how they run the company, and stop listening to my direct boss.... I would be fired immediately. Kudos to the way MS handles cry baby players, and kudos to Kyle for demanding DM benching.[/quote]

Good post.

It's funny that Skins fans have become so used to the drama queen players getting their way around here. The fans scream for change, but when it finally comes they resist just as much as some of these crybaby players. For years peopled have wanted a no nonsense, my way or the highway kind of leadership style in here. Now that we have it, it's all [IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i318/JVM485/Avatars/smiley_cry.gif[/IMG] I don't like this now.

DM simply wasn't playing well at all, he should have been benched after the Detroit game. Amazing that after not having started a game since 2008, Grossman of all people is able to step in and do 2 things DM hasn't done all year, throw 4 TDs and put 30 points on the board.

DM is a great guy and I really wanted it to work out for him here, but if it doesn't and someone else can step in and perform at a higher level, get his ass outta here and let's move on. All this BS about respect, or crying about they didn't cater the offense to me, just totally rubs me the wrong way. It's an obvious ploy by DM's agent to get him outta here sooner rather than later.

GMScud 12-24-2010 11:39 AM

Re: McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...
 
[quote=Mattyk;772084]Reid traded McNabb because he had one year left on his deal and they knew they weren't going to re-sign him with Kolb waiting in the wings. I know it's more fun to believe Reid had some sort of diabolical plan in place and thought DM was washed up, even though he was coming off a season where he threw for 3553 yards, 22 TDs, and 10 INTs, and his highest QB rating since 2006.

[B]I don't care what anyone says, DM can still play in this league, he just wasn't a good fit here for a variety of reasons. Shit happens. All this other drama now is just girlie tabloid crap.[/B][/quote]

That's a fair point, in a vacuum. But these are the Redskins- a team with a history of shipping off desperately needed draft picks for old vets. A team that was coming out of two years of circus-like coaching/organizational moves. A team that needed sound personnel decisions and a steady QB.

Shit does indeed happen. Year after year. That's why this is getting so much attention. The Shanahan regime was supposed to bring a departure from this sort of stuff. As of yet, no dice.

Sure, Redskins Park no longer hast the country club mentality, but can you really say a whole lot more about Shanny/Allen thus far?


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