McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

[GMScud]

Redskins Insider - Donovan McNabb's agent blasts the Shanahans

Mike Shanahan responds to Fletcher Smith | ProFootballTalk

I was surprised there wasn't a thread on this yet.

I get what Fletcher Smith is doing. And I hear what Shanahan is saying. McNabb has said all the right things, but his agent works for him. If he didn't want Smith saying those things about KS and MS, Smith wouldn't have.

The Shanahans have blundered seriously this year. My way or the highway is okay to an extent, but you have to blend that kind of style with deft management of personalities (see New England. Same attitude, no leaks, no malcontents). And in that department, we have failed. They've acted like stubborn jerks at times this year, with ego prevailing.

I was hoping the Skins were finally being run by adults. I'm still not so sure. The dysfunction this year seems just as bad or worse as in year's past.

[skinsfaninok]

Bottom line... We are 5-9 and Mcnabb hasn't played well. Grossman comes in and throws 4 Tds and 330 yards

If we were 9-5 he would still be the starter

[Schneed10]

I don't mind the my way or the highway approach. Shanahan's nothing if not decisive.

McNabb has given us the deep ball this year, that's about it. He's slow in his drops away from center, DEs are usually turning the corner by the time he's at the top of his drop. He's as erratic as ever on the short throws, skipping them at the feet of receivers. He's not making his reads fast enough. And he's lost quite a bit of mobility.

I see why Andy Reid didn't mind trading him within the division.

I don't fault Shanahan for this decision whatsoever, and could care less how McNabb feels about it. What sucks is that QB guru Shanahan couldn't see that McNabb was done BEFORE making the trade for him.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't mind the my way or the highway approach. Shanahan's nothing if not decisive.

McNabb has given us the deep ball this year, that's about it. He's slow in his drops away from center, DEs are usually turning the corner by the time he's at the top of his drop. He's as erratic as ever on the short throws, skipping them at the feet of receivers. He's not making his reads fast enough. And he's lost quite a bit of mobility.

I see why Andy Reid didn't mind trading him within the division.

I don't fault Shanahan for this decision whatsoever, and could care less how McNabb feels about it. What sucks is that QB guru Shanahan couldn't see that McNabb was done BEFORE making the trade for him.

Agreed. Shanny's only signature move thus far has been a gigantic fail on many levels- giving up such important picks to get McNabb, the week 8 benching and ensuing joke of an explanation, and the recent McNabb fiasco. Really piss poor.

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. Shanny's only signature move thus far has been a gigantic fail on many levels- giving up such important picks to get McNabb, the week 8 benching and ensuing joke of an explanation, and the recent McNabb fiasco. Really piss poor.

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.

How do you classify the Trent Williams pick?
Fail? Non-signature move?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Hog1

How do you classify the Trent Williams pick?
Fail? Non-signature move?

I would classify it as a non-signature move. O-line was our biggest deficiency, and Trent was the best player available at tackle. Good pick for sure, but certainly not a signature move. The only time I'd really call a draft pick a "signature move" so to speak would be something along the lines of taking a QB #1 overall.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by GMScud

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.

The thought on Haynesworth was he waited to long but as for McNabb he blew it .

[juskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. Shanny's only signature move thus far has been a gigantic fail on many levels- giving up such important picks to get McNabb, the week 8 benching and ensuing joke of an explanation, and the recent McNabb fiasco. Really piss poor.

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.

Obviously, you are a Mike Shannahan fan. I would applaud any coach that displaces his starter because he does not feel the starter is getting the job done.

This is a game of making moves with your roster to better the team, not a game of being politically correct. If Donovan leaves at the end of this season, he will make roughly $3 Million big bucks. Please, bench me and let me move on.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by juskins

Obviously, you are a Mike Shannahan fan. I would applaud any coach that displaces his starter because he does not feel the starter is getting the job done.

This is a game of making moves with your roster to better the team, not a game of being politically correct. If Donovan leaves at the end of this season, he will make roughly $3 Million big bucks. Please, bench me and let me move on.

Try reading a few of my posts. Thus far I'm on the fence with Shanahan, but never did I say McNabb didn't deserve to be benched. My issue is and has been all along the way Shanahan has explained his benchings, and how much we gave up to get McNabb.

And McNabb is a crybaby for letting his agent make that statement.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Try reading a few of my posts. Thus far I'm on the fence with Shanahan, but never did I say McNabb didn't deserve to be benched. My issue is and has been all along the way Shanahan has explained his benchings, and how much we gave up to get McNabb.

And McNabb is a crybaby for letting his agent make that statement.

He's the Head Coach and can say and do what he sees fit. If you are on the fence, its because you are not looking at the overall picture regarding being competitive in this division. Most of the teams in the NFL are hard-nosed and coached accordingly. A player, I don't care who he is, does not make decisions regarding his play on the field, and is subjected to the decision making of the head coach who does have the say so to change things up if the head coach has an idea of what is needed to make his offense work.

An example of staying too long with a QB who was not that good was Jason Campbell. Every coach since Gibbs gave him a free ride.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. Shanny's only signature move thus far has been a gigantic fail on many levels- giving up such important picks to get McNabb, the week 8 benching and ensuing joke of an explanation, and the recent McNabb fiasco. Really piss poor.

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.

What about it? Shanahan tried to trade him, but there weren't any takers. So he figured he might as well get what he could for his services.

AH was determined to be a hemorrhoid no matter what. We'd be in the same position with him even if Joe Gibbs was the head coach.

[Hail to the Redskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't mind the my way or the highway approach. Shanahan's nothing if not decisive.

McNabb has given us the deep ball this year, that's about it. He's slow in his drops away from center, DEs are usually turning the corner by the time he's at the top of his drop. He's as erratic as ever on the short throws, skipping them at the feet of receivers. He's not making his reads fast enough. And he's lost quite a bit of mobility.

I see why Andy Reid didn't mind trading him within the division.

I don't fault Shanahan for this decision whatsoever, and could care less how McNabb feels about it. What sucks is that QB guru Shanahan couldn't see that McNabb was done BEFORE making the trade for him.

Glad you pointed this out... when I was watching the game Sunday, I was trying to figure out what looked so different about the pace of our offense. This is nail on the head for me.... Grossman was MUCH quicker getting away from center, giving him the chance to read the defense much earlier.

Good call.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't mind the my way or the highway approach. Shanahan's nothing if not decisive.

McNabb has given us the deep ball this year, that's about it. He's slow in his drops away from center, DEs are usually turning the corner by the time he's at the top of his drop. He's as erratic as ever on the short throws, skipping them at the feet of receivers. He's not making his reads fast enough. And he's lost quite a bit of mobility.

I see why Andy Reid didn't mind trading him within the division.

I don't fault Shanahan for this decision whatsoever, and could care less how McNabb feels about it. What sucks is that QB guru Shanahan couldn't see that McNabb was done BEFORE making the trade for him.

wcnabb is not done he just is not as good as he was sucks for us

[Ruhskins]

This is terrible, just terrible.

[SirClintonPortis]

Shanahan the coach's decision is not a bad decision, although reducing him to "scout team" dude is kind of excessive.
Shanahan the PR guy and GM deserve marks of "needs improvement".

Some fans should realize that the younger Shanahan is less patient than them.