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SmootSmack 11-18-2011 09:42 AM

Which QB Fits Best?
 
So there are four QBs that, with varying degrees of serious, we tried to acquire in recent years and didn't.

So here's the question. Let's put aside what it would have cost us to get the player. I just want to know which QB and their talent and skill set would be the best fit for our offense assuming the current roster (all healthy).

And yes, for the purposes of this thread, let's assume that somehow we have Bradford and Trent Williams.

Ruhskins 11-18-2011 09:43 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;860446]So there are four QBs that, with varying degrees of serious, we tried to acquire in recent years and didn't.

So here's the question. Let's put aside what it would have cost us to get the player. I just want to know which QB and their talent and skill set would be the best fit for our offense assuming the current roster (all healthy).

And yes, for the purposes of this thread, let's assume that somehow we have Bradford and Trent Williams.[/quote]

I would say Bradford.

BleedBurgundy 11-18-2011 09:43 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Voted Cutler... big arm, mobile- fits the Shanahan mold (probably why he drafted him...)

irish 11-18-2011 09:50 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
I think Bradford but like the current QBs he wouldnt have any RBs, WRs, or an O line so he'd be pretty helpless.

mlmdub130 11-18-2011 09:54 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=irish;860451]I think Bradford but like the current QBs he wouldnt have any RBs, WRs, or an O line so he'd be pretty helpless.[/quote]

same

Jontrem 11-18-2011 10:03 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Cutler. Already worked in a Shannahan offense. Could have been successful here.

ArtMonkDrillz 11-18-2011 10:15 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
I went with Bradford but Cutler is a close second in my mind. I think I'm one of those people who think Cutler is better than he actually might be.

freddyg12 11-18-2011 10:21 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=Jontrem;860454]Cutler. Already worked in a Shannahan offense. Could have been successful here.[/quote]

likewise, I found it hard not to choose Cutler.

celts32 11-18-2011 10:41 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
I will say Bradford...but we would definitely be in good shape with Cutler also. I like Locker but it's hard to consider him over Bradford or Cutler without having ever seen him take an NFL snap.

SBXVII 11-18-2011 10:42 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Alright, I'm the only idiot so far who picked Sanchez. lol. I'm the "1".

Cutler we have seen in this style of offense and he's Grossman2. Maybe a little better but not much

Bradford might make a good QB in the system but I just don't picture him as a big scrambler and when playing the Skins he kept stepping right up into pressure. Not good decisions.

Locker. Hmm. I don't know. I don't picture him scrambling for his life either. But I don't think I've seen enough of him lately.

Sanchez has shown poise in the pocket, shown he can roll out and pass the ball on the move, and shown he can run for the 1st down if he needs to. This is a bad year for him which I'm not sure if it's the OL or what.

celts32 11-18-2011 10:47 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SBXVII;860461]Alright, I'm the only idiot so far who picked Sanchez. lol. I'm the "1".

Cutler we have seen in this style of offense and he's Grossman2. Maybe a little better but not much

Bradford might make a good QB in the system but I just don't picture him as a big scrambler and when playing the Skins he kept stepping right up into pressure. Not good decisions.

Locker. Hmm. I don't know. I don't picture him scrambling for his life either. But I don't think I've seen enough of him lately.

Sanchez has shown poise in the pocket, shown he can roll out and pass the ball on the move, and shown he can run for the 1st down if he needs to. This is a bad year for him which I'm not sure if it's the OL or what.[/quote]

Cutler is not Grossman! He may be the most under rated player in the league. People bash him because they don't like his facial expressions...sort of the same rap Eli gets. The guy has elite talent...we would be contending for the division right now if he were on the roster.

MTK 11-18-2011 10:50 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Cutler is definitely not Grossman.

Absurd analogy.

GMScud 11-18-2011 10:58 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
I went Bradford. He's currently playing on one of the few teams in the NFL with less offensive talent than the Redskins. He's got huge talent. Surround him with some complimentary pieces and he's going to be a star I think.

Apparently the Shanahan's were really enamored with him, so that's who I'm picking as far as this poll is concerned.

But then again, MS hasn't been able to get out of his own way as far as his QB decisions here, so maybe Bradford would be the worst choice? Lol who knows.

Chico23231 11-18-2011 11:01 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Cutler

NC_Skins 11-18-2011 11:03 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Cutler. Especially since Shanny handpicked him, but I'd be willing to swap out Bradford as well. I think Cutler gets a bad rap due to his demeanor, but guy is showing once again that he can play.

rypper11 11-18-2011 11:06 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Bradford.
Hankerson, Moss, Cooley and Davis are all better than anything the Rams have (though 3/4 of them aren't helping us now). His receivers drop more easy catches than they hold on to.

mooby 11-18-2011 11:08 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Bradford. I think he's got a bright future in the NFL, and I think as long as we upgrade our offensive talent this year he would have the supporting cast in place to start reaching his potential.

GTripp0012 11-18-2011 11:53 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Cutler is probably the best of the four simply by virtue of being mildly successful, but I voted for Bradford because he's younger.

I would have taken Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder over anyone on this list at the time, and would take Andy Dalton now over anyone on this list based on what he's doing this year.

mlmpetert 11-18-2011 11:59 AM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Voted Bradford. He did really well and liked Shurmur's west coast offense, even though im not really sure if Shurmur really used a real west coast offense or more fit it to the players he had.

Also speaking of which.... Should Colt McCoy be included in this? Im not sure, did the Redskins not like him? Or just not have draft picks last year or put all their eggs in McNabbs basket?

mlmpetert 11-18-2011 12:01 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;860455]I went with Bradford but Cutler is a close second in my mind. I think I'm one of those people who think Cutler is better than he actually might be.[/quote]


Im with you on Cutler, I think hes better then he actually seems

mlmpetert 11-18-2011 12:05 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SBXVII;860461]Sanchez has shown poise in the pocket, shown he can roll out and pass the ball on the move, and shown he can run for the 1st down if he needs to. This is a bad year for him which I'm not sure if it's the OL or what.[/quote]


Every year has been a bad year for him, despite all the talen around him. I think hes the most overrated QB in the nfl.

SFREDSKIN 11-18-2011 01:18 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
I would say Bradford follow by Sanchez. Most people would say Cutler to me he has a gunslinger and gambler mentality which I don't like.

celts32 11-18-2011 01:19 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=mlmpetert;860503]Every year has been a bad year for him, despite all the talen around him. I think hes the most overrated QB in the nfl.[/quote]

This is sort of true...if it were not for the playoff wins he would be approaching bust category. He has had some nice playoff performances which earns him a free pass with a lot of people but his regular seasons have not been good for the most part.

Lotus 11-18-2011 01:23 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Shanny did hand-pick Cutler but I think he also would have hand-picked Bradford if he could have. So I say Bradford.

SBXVII 11-18-2011 02:18 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Ok then some one refresh my memory....

Didn't Denver and Chicago trade QB's because they were not happy with their performances? ie; too many INT's, Fumbles, not scoring. and wasn't Cutler apart of that trade? To me.... his stats are only slightly better then Grossmans.

MTK 11-18-2011 02:20 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SBXVII;860574]Ok then some one refresh my memory....

Didn't Denver and Chicago trade QB's because they were not happy with their performances? ie; too many INT's, Fumbles, not scoring. and wasn't Cutler apart of that trade? To me.... his stats are only slightly better then Grossmans.[/quote]

Only slightly? I think you need to get some glasses.

If you want someone that compares to Grossman put his numbers next to Sanchez.

skinsfaninok 11-18-2011 02:28 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Bradford then Cutler... Sanchez? Thank god we didn't get him

mlmpetert 11-18-2011 03:02 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;860580]Bradford then Cutler... Sanchez? Thank god we didn't get him[/quote]


Sanchez is the Devin Thomas of quarterbacks. Imagine if we had him.... if you thnk fan morale is bad now!

celts32 11-18-2011 03:04 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SBXVII;860574]Ok then some one refresh my memory....

Didn't Denver and Chicago trade QB's because they were not happy with their performances? ie; too many INT's, Fumbles, not scoring. and wasn't Cutler apart of that trade? To me.... his stats are only slightly better then Grossmans.[/quote]

No not true at all...Denver traded Cutler because Cutler and McDaniels did not hit it off. Cutler did not want to play for McDaniels and finally Pat Bowlen got fed up and traded him. It had nothing to do with performance...

SBXVII 11-18-2011 03:09 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=celts32;860591]No not true at all...Denver traded Cutler because Cutler and McDaniels did not hit it off. Cutler did not want to play for McDaniels and finally Pat Bowlen got fed up and traded him. It had nothing to do with [B]performance[/B]...[/quote]

LOL.... I don't know why I thought of Viagra. LOL.

Ok, I'm wrong. I don't know enough about Cutler other then he was traded and I do recall a difference between the HC and QB, but I thought it was centered around the QB not playing well in the system.

SFREDSKIN 11-18-2011 03:14 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
I disagree on the dirty Sanchez comments. I think if had a decent OC instead of BS that he would do better just like Alex Smith.

SBXVII 11-18-2011 03:16 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
However looking at NFL.com:

#16 Mark Sanchez
#18 Jay Cutler
#25 Sam Bradford
#26 Rex Grossman

This is how their being rated so far by STATS. for you stat minded fans.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1]NFL Stats: by Player Category[/url]

MTK 11-18-2011 03:19 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SBXVII;860597]However looking at NFL.com:

#16 Mark Sanchez
#18 Jay Cutler
#25 Sam Bradford
#26 Rex Grossman

This is how their being rated so far by STATS. for you stat minded fans.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1"]NFL Stats: by Player Category[/URL][/quote]

I was talking career wise, sorry.

SBXVII 11-18-2011 03:22 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=Mattyk;860598]I was talking career wise.[/quote]

Ok. I'm wrong about Cutler. Sorry folks.

But personally seeing what Sanchez can do and looking at his bad year this year I'd take Sanchez. Funny though even with his bad year this year his record is better then the rest.

CultBrennan59 11-18-2011 03:29 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Cutler. When he's had good receivers, and an oline, he's been great (Denver).

When he's had no oline and barely any good receivers, he's been good enough to keep his team in the game (Chicago). Imagine him in Chicago with a good OLine and atleast one above-good receiver.

Now Bradford, imagine him with a Solid receiver he'd be good as well, but he doesn't have the arm or experience of Cutler, however he does have better accuracy.

mlmpetert 11-18-2011 04:49 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;860596]I disagree on the dirty Sanchez comments. I think if had a decent OC instead of BS that he would do better just like Alex Smith.[/quote]


I agree, but its hard to make any excuses when hes srounded by so much talent. Maybe the kids of legardary offensive cordinators just dont make for good offensive cordinators themselves? Like it skips a generation or something....

mlmpetert 11-18-2011 04:52 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=SBXVII;860597]However looking at NFL.com:

#16 Mark Sanchez
#18 Jay Cutler
#25 Sam Bradford
#26 Rex Grossman

This is how their being rated so far by STATS. for you stat minded fans.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&season=2011&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1"]NFL Stats: by Player Category[/URL][/quote]


This is a worthless list, so much so that its not even worthy of Tebow and his less then 14 passes per game.....

Dirtbag59 11-18-2011 04:56 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
Cutler and it's not even close. 3 years in the system and proven production. Keep in mind his best statistical year under Shanny came when he played with undiagnosed type 1 diabets. He also led the Bears to the NFC championship and an NFC North title in spite of having a porous offensive line. And now in a year where the NFC North is absolutely stacked he has them in position to return to the playoffs. For God's sake he's succeeding at QB in a city that has had worse luck at the position then us.

DCtoAZ 11-18-2011 04:58 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
are you kidding me with this question ? CUTLER .. looking back it's a damn shame we weren't able to land that SOB .. he was a freaking beast with Shanny .. damn that would have lined up nice .. oh well ... Barkley to the Skins' in 2012

Dirtbag59 11-18-2011 04:59 PM

Re: Which QB Fits Best?
 
[quote=DCtoAZ;860628]are you kidding me with this question ? CUTLER .. looking back it's a damn shame we weren't able to land that SOB .. he was a freaking beast with Shanny .. damn that would have lined up nice .. oh well ... Barkley to the Skins' in 2012[/quote]

I hate to say it and I know you have to build a team but right now Cutler would have a bigger impact here then Williams and Orakpo combined.


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