Offseason Power Rankings - # 29
 

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking[/url]

well in espn's offseason power rankings, they have the skins 29th out of 32 nfl teams, and last in the NFC east.

if there is any solace though the chargers were 32nd in last years offseason rankings and look how well that turned out for them.

any thoughts?

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The way these power rankings work, if we win the SB, I bet we still wouldn't be #1 in a lot of these polls.

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man, if we give the Broncos a top 10 pick....

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We need to be at least 9-7 to avoid the trade from becoming terrible.

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I know I say this every pre-season but THIS SHOULD BE OUR BREAKOUT SEASON!

If the D maintains its top 3 status and the offense plays to 10 then we'll be set.

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Offense TOP 10??? is that what you are saying??

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Well last year we were ranked like 10th or higher and some said that we would win the superbowl. Also im confused why Detriot is so high, they finished the season like 2-8.

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F- Polls. I put no stock in polls whatsoever........especially polls that come out months before the first preseason game is even played. Last year's Chargers are the perfect example of why these things just don't matter.

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They have the F-ing DOLPHINS above us! Yeah, screw that poll. Not based on a lot of thought. Cowboys at 12?! Bah. They're predicting us to be worse off than last year. I don't buy that at all.

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A power poll in May...

who freakin cares

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Seriously. It's just to have SOMETHING to say. Put out a power poll after the first preseason game...

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Matty, how do you expect the skins O to move up to a top 10 when they have done almost nothing to improve?

As much as I hate to say it, I think this poll is closer to being correct than being wrong. I doubt the skins will be 29th at the end of the season but I will be amazed if they can get to 15.

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This is where we should be ranked... in May. We had, though not a disasterous offseason, certainly not one that made strides of improvement over last year's squad - and last year's squad left us picking 9th.

I don't think we are the third worst team in the league - far from it. But for the purposes of the May 2005 Power Rankings, we are what we are.

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Whatever, its May.

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My first reaction was to be pissed off, but the more I think about it, fine, let them put the Skins dead last! That way when we end up with a decent record and end up in the top 10, they all have to eat crow...and LOTS of it!!!
Seriously, when was the last time the Redskins dropped in power rankings after FA and the draft...at least this substantially? Watch teams like the Vikings and Cowboys that have "made great strides" this offseason flounder in mediocrity due to lack of chemistry. They are like this years Redskins as far as "winning" the offseason.
Our offseason has had a real "team" type of feel to it. No huge stars, but a lot of team-oriented guys that will make our team better. I think our special teams will be very good, which may make the difference in more than a couple games. I also think our offense will be improved....not super explosive, but we'll at least be able to put some points on the board. So if our D is anywhere close to last season, we should end up around 10-6...no worse than 9-7...

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Who cares it's only May. Besides I like being the under dog!!!

:httr:

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[QUOTE=irish]Matty, how do you expect the skins O to move up to a top 10 when they have done almost nothing to improve?

As much as I hate to say it, I think this poll is closer to being correct than being wrong. I doubt the skins will be 29th at the end of the season but I will be amazed if they can get to 15.[/QUOTE]

I think you're mixing me up with someone else, I didn't say anything about the offense going top 10.

My view is it's way to early for a power poll, it's just silly to rank teams right now.

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What really matters, and what's not shown in this "power ranking" thing, is what I'll call the 3 C's= Coaching, Chemistry, and Continuity. For the first time in a long time, I feel good about these things. And, remember: we usually get over-ranked in these things in the offseason because of our wild, splashy offseason moves.

Here's what we did this offseason, Irish: we improved the O-line (Rabach, Jansen's return), we altered our receiving corps (Patten, Moss), we didn't break the bank on anyone, even though we lost some good players in Pierce and Smoot, and we drafted a CB replacement, some depth at LB and FB/H-back, and we got a QB prospect (Brunell's replacement, and insurance for Ramsey). Nothing here is on paper an upgrade, I'll admit, except Rabach. ANd given that we were 6-10, why should we move up in the polls (which are pretty subjective: what IS a power ranking???). BUt that's not what's going to matter. It's the three C's, the big one being coaching. If GIbbs gets it going on offense, we'll be good--a decent shot at a wild-card, is my bet. If not, it aint gonna happen, and all the flashy signings wouldn't change a thing.

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I see parallels between us and last year Chargers team anyway. They fought their way to a 12-4 record with a strong defense, a dominant tailback, less than amazing receivers and a quarterback revitalized after everyone wrote him off in favor for the incoming rookie.

Now Clinton Portis isn't exactly Tomlinson (though you have to think he'll score more than 5 touchdowns this year) and Chris Cooley, though productive, is no Antonio Gates. But our defense is stronger I'd say, and I doubt many would argue that Gibbs is a superior coach to Schottenheimer. Now if Ramsey can just have himself a Brees 2004 season, we might be in business.

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Sorry Matty, I confused you with Redskins Rat.

Why is it silly to rank teams now? With that logic it would be silly to ever rank teams (or talka about what the future holds) because nobody has any idea who will play, be injured, etc, no matter what time of the season it is.

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[QUOTE=heybigstar]We need to be at least 9-7 to avoid the trade from becoming terrible.[/QUOTE]


It will turn out to be a terrible trade no matter where we finish.

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This is me not caring.

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who cares. it's may. they judge us every year, and because we didn't make great strides in the offseason to improve a losing record, they are assuming that we are gonna suck again this year. im sure the years before this one we were ranked high in may power rankings mainly because of all the people we picked up in the offseason.

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We barely improved the O-line...We still have questionable depth there.
We replaced Smoot with a question mark that may take a couple years to develop.
We replaced Pierce.
We still have questions at QB.
We have questions at WR.
If Sean Taylor, Cooley, Nowland, Wilson and Molinaro have a soph slump and Dockery, Ray Brown, Jansen, all the new LB's and LA cant or dont perform our offense and defense could be alot worse.
We have too many questions for a good ranking.

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last year we fixed a leaky defense, this year we'll fix crappy special teams... EVERY move this offseason has basically been for special teams (even rodgers is expected to play some there), so if we've got 2/3rds of our team in the top 5, we should be alright... on offense we got a better oline by 2 parts and better deep threats to help portis get some space (hopefully)... i dont think our yardage is going to go way up (except for ramsey replacing brunell), but there should be less 8-9 in the box plays against us.

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If our defense stay in the top, and wins those close games then we'll be a serious contender, but we have to send a message to the NFC east and refuse to lose in our division.

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Does it really matter where we're ranked in May?

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Exactly. Cause when you think about it, isn't this just a draft review by any other name?

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It is way too early to determine which teams will be good and which ones are gonna do bad. These power rankings are based on offseason acquisitions. I agree the patriots are the top of the food chain. Cowgirls at 12? I don't think so! I think we should be way higher than 29. Just because we lost 2 starters on D dosen't mean that we are gonna suck this year. Alot of these "experts" don't really know what they are talking about anyway. All we need to do is turn up the offense and we are serious contenders in the NFC and the Superbowl. I don't think that it will be a problem for coach Gibbs to do that. We played the Eagals for 7 1/2 quarters and they are considered the cream of the crop in the NFC. Like I've been saying we don't have to get that much better to contend in the NFC. I like the fact that people are underestimating our team. So, everybody keep their hope and their faith alive and we will do fine this year. Much better than last year.

Go SKINS!!!!

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Are we really having a serious discussion about the Skins' ranking in a poll IN MAY?

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Better than no discussions at all. :)

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[QUOTE=Ron Burgundy and Gold]I see parallels between us and last year Chargers team anyway. They fought their way to a 12-4 record with a strong defense, a dominant tailback, less than amazing receivers and a quarterback revitalized after everyone wrote him off in favor for the incoming rookie.

Now Clinton Portis isn't exactly Tomlinson (though you have to think he'll score more than 5 touchdowns this year) and Chris Cooley, though productive, is no Antonio Gates. But our defense is stronger I'd say, and I doubt many would argue that Gibbs is a superior coach to Schottenheimer. Now if Ramsey can just have himself a Brees 2004 season, we might be in business.[/QUOTE]
I agree that our team does parallel the Chargers of last year, but I look at it slightly different.

I think that Moss and Patten are upgrades compared to the WR's that the chargers have. I mean they didnt get a known wr until they got McCardell.

As for Portis being compared to Tomlinson, I think that you hit the nail on the head. If you look at there stats, they were almost identical. The only differenc is the TD coulmn, but as for carries and yards and yards per carry, they are really close to the same. I too hope that Portis gets in to the endzone more than five times also, but to be fair it wasnt all his fault. And Cooley isnt Gates, but I feel pretty confidant that he will get the job done.

The biggest person/position we need to perform this year is the QB/Ramsey, hopefully Gibbs inserts the shotgun formation and Ramsey lights up this year...

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Offseason power polls are as pointless as the post draft report cards..

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#29, I think that may be optimistic.

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I was just saying I understand the ranking...in my long drawn out way...not that it means anything

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I think you're mixing me up with someone else, I didn't say anything about the offense going top 10.

My view is it's way to early for a power poll, it's just silly to rank teams right now.[/QUOTE]


Hey, quit dogging Matt, it was me.

I WANT our offense to be top ten, didn't say they were.

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[QUOTE=HermosaBeach Skin Fan]#29, I think that may be optimistic.[/QUOTE] You call yourself a Skins fan? You think they should be lower then 29? Did I completly understand your statement? If this is correct you might think of changing your name to HemosaBeach Fan and get rid of the Skin part as that is quite crazy.

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[quote]You call yourself a Skins fan? You think they should be lower then 29? Did I completly understand your statement? If this is correct you might think of changing your name to HemosaBeach Fan and get rid of the Skin part as that is quite crazy.
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There you go again, saying someone isn't a fan because they look at the skins realisticly. Let's see, I remember a similar discussion last year... who was right? Us or ESPN.. Hint: It wasn't us.

Could the Redskins improve, certainly. I think we have a decent chance, however at this juncture we have a lot of question marks, we did very little to improve one of the leagues worst offenses, and lost some valueable pieces to our defense. It could pan out and we could be a contender, but we'll need to see some big offensive changes and another great defensive showing from Greg Williams and co.

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Daseal, your view of looking at the Skins "realistically" may be different than someone else's.

To borrow from your signature, Apparently [i]having[/i] unrelenting optimism means you're not a fan.

Nobody is right or wrong here, there will always be fans that believe you should support the team no matter what, and there will be others that will always look at the team with a cautious eye.

As worthless as a May power poll is, I find it hard to believe the Skins are only better than 3 teams in this league right now. But hey, if anything the poll generated discussion, so mission accomplished ESPN.

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Matty - CRT3 is calling someone not a fan because they don't look through the world with burgandy colored glasses. The Redskins deserve this spot, because they simply haven't done anything to prove otherwise. I support my team, but that doesn't mean they don't do things wrong.

I also said I don't think we're THAT bad, but we're certainly not great.