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MTK 05-23-2005 08:09 PM

Redskins Offensive Outlook
 
Trev Walters' latest article is now up

[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=85142#post85142"]Redskins Offensive Outlook[/url]

rickmmrr 05-23-2005 09:33 PM

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I love this guys articles. Can't wait to see Cooley this year.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-23-2005 09:49 PM

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I like how he can spit out puppydogs and leprechauns and still back it up.

davy 05-23-2005 09:57 PM

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Shame he doesn't know the difference between commiserate and commensurate though.

mooby 05-23-2005 10:02 PM

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sweet. that article has revived my faith in my skins. if everything works according to plan, we could be a 10-6 or 11-5 team this season. maybe even better, but that is a long shot, because in order for that to happen, the offense would need to make huge leaps and bounds instead of the kind that guy is talking about. i feel good about the skins though, and i totally agree with what he said about cooley. i didn't understand how some fans felt we needed help at the tight end/h-back position with cooley there. i bet he's gonna be as good as antonio gates next season.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-23-2005 11:05 PM

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Cooley is a beast, but there's no way he'll put up AG's stats (if that is in fact what your meant by he'll be as good as AG was).

Daseal 05-23-2005 11:32 PM

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A lot of people think we need an upgrade at Robert Royal's position. I think we need a great blocking TE that can occassionally catch a pass. Just a big guy with good hands!

mooby 05-24-2005 12:21 AM

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what i meant by it was how antonio gates wasn't supposed to be that great but look what he did last season. that's how i view cooley. people think he isn't that great but he is poised to have a pro bowl type season. cooley can block. he can catch passes also. he didn't have a lot of dropped passes last season.

GoSkins! 05-24-2005 06:37 AM

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[QUOTE=Daseal]A lot of people think we need an upgrade at Robert Royal's position. I think we need a great blocking TE that can occassionally catch a pass. Just a big guy with good hands![/QUOTE]

Cooley can hold a block, but he doesn't bowl anyone over. Daseals is right about us needing an upgrade in the blocking TE position. One of our newly drafted fullbacks may be groomed to fill some stop duty to statisfy that need.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-24-2005 07:12 AM

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!]Cooley can hold a block, but he doesn't bowl anyone over. Daseals is right about us needing an upgrade in the blocking TE position. One of our newly drafted fullbacks may be groomed to fill some stop duty to statisfy that need.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, I think a good blocking tight end needs to be in the 260 lb. + range and both our newly acquired backs are about 20 lbs. too light (if I recall correctly).

Red Robert 05-24-2005 10:55 AM

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If I have said it once I have said it 20 times. Cooley is going to blow up next year and have a probowl type season. Get your jersey now.

Love this guys take, nice to hear a positive spin for a change.

celts32 05-24-2005 12:31 PM

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Good article...a little optomistic, but this is the time of year for optimism. My only problem is the statement that Betts could start for a slew of other teams. I like Betts as a backup but I would be interested in hearing the slew of teams that he could start for. The only team in the NFC I could see Betts even getting a chance to start for is Arizona, but they also just drafted JJ Arington who will get first crack. Other than that I enjoyed the article...

Schneed10 05-24-2005 12:46 PM

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!]Cooley can hold a block, but he doesn't bowl anyone over. Daseals is right about us needing an upgrade in the blocking TE position. One of our newly drafted fullbacks may be groomed to fill some stop duty to statisfy that need.[/QUOTE]

True this 1000 percent.

Schneed10 05-24-2005 12:53 PM

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[QUOTE=celts32]Good article...a little optomistic, but this is the time of year for optimism. My only problem is the statement that Betts could start for a slew of other teams. I like Betts as a backup but I would be interested in hearing the slew of teams that he could start for. The only team in the NFC I could see Betts even getting a chance to start for is Arizona, but they also just drafted JJ Arington who will get first crack. Other than that I enjoyed the article...[/QUOTE]

I agree on Arizona.

I'd start Betts in San Fran over Kevan Barlow, though they just drafted Frank Gore who has to get a look. But Betts would be my guy right now.

You'd have to consider Betts to be at least in the mix in Minnesota (Michael Bennet, Ciatrick Fason, Mewelde Moore, Moe Williams).

I think Betts could challenge Reuben Droughns in Cleveland. Droughns is nothing special, just a product of that Denver system.

And in Tennessee, Chris Brown should certainly be the starter when healthy, but he just broke his hand, so I'll bet the Titans wouldn't mind a Ladell Betts.

But I do agree, he did overstate it. That's hardly a "slew" of teams, it's mostly a bunch of maybes.

skinnyfan 05-24-2005 01:02 PM

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[QUOTE=Red Robert]If I have said it once I have said it 20 times. Cooley is going to blow up next year and have a probowl type season. Get your jersey now.

Love this guys take, nice to hear a positive spin for a change.[/QUOTE]


I would have to AGREE 100%.....now this is inside info but a friend of mine is in a poker league with Cooley.......says he is really down to earth! Pretty open about his football career etc......Cooley stated that the offensive coaches said he could have 60+ catches this year! Believe it or not, but it is straight from the horses mouth! COOLEY IS GOING TO BE A MONSTER!

memphisskin 05-24-2005 03:06 PM

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I like this offseason a whole lot more than years past, because instead of bringing in a whole new offense or defense we're just adding flavor to what we've already got. I agree, the offense will only be as good as the offensive line but the o-line is quickly shaping up to be an area of strength after so many years of it being a primary weakness.

I did bemoan passing on Mike Williams, but I think we should be much improved this season. I love the low power rankings we've gotten so far, lots of folks are sleeping on the Skins but I think the NFC East is going to be the best division in football next season.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-24-2005 03:28 PM

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And maybe people feel the Skins O-line is one of the more dominant ones in the league...

monk81 05-24-2005 08:29 PM

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good article.............COOLEY, COOLEY, COOLEY............
I agree about our line, little concerned about our smallish receivers, the pressure is on Ramsey, hopefully the improved line will help ..........And I'm confident Gibbs will open up the offense and won't play so conservative..........

monk81 05-24-2005 08:30 PM

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[QUOTE=skinnyfan]I would have to AGREE 100%.....now this is inside info but a friend of mine is in a poker league with Cooley.......says he is really down to earth! Pretty open about his football career etc......Cooley stated that the offensive coaches said he could have 60+ catches this year! Believe it or not, but it is straight from the horses mouth! COOLEY IS GOING TO BE A MONSTER![/QUOTE]

Poker!!!!!!!!!! I love it........Does Cooley play Texas Hold 'Em..........

TheMalcolmConnection 05-24-2005 09:49 PM

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Cooley was definitely like a black hole for the pigskin. If the ball was anywhere near him, he CAUGHT it and hung on to it.

skinnyfan 05-25-2005 09:10 AM

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[QUOTE=monk81]Poker!!!!!!!!!! I love it........Does Cooley play Texas Hold 'Em..........[/QUOTE]


Yea.....but its a real cheap league.....like $150 to enter......well......cheap for Cooley.

celts32 05-25-2005 12:34 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]I agree on Arizona.

I'd start Betts in San Fran over Kevan Barlow, though they just drafted Frank Gore who has to get a look. But Betts would be my guy right now.

You'd have to consider Betts to be at least in the mix in Minnesota (Michael Bennet, Ciatrick Fason, Mewelde Moore, Moe Williams).

I think Betts could challenge Reuben Droughns in Cleveland. Droughns is nothing special, just a product of that Denver system.

And in Tennessee, Chris Brown should certainly be the starter when healthy, but he just broke his hand, so I'll bet the Titans wouldn't mind a Ladell Betts.

But I do agree, he did overstate it. That's hardly a "slew" of teams, it's mostly a bunch of maybes.[/QUOTE]

Everyone of these backs have shown more potential than Betts as of now so to say he would take any of their jobs is pure specualtion. Betts is a good backup who might start in the right circumstance if given the opportunity, but to act like the league is beating down the door for Ladell Betts is just rediculous...

W_REDSKINS 05-26-2005 01:54 AM

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A: H-Back and Tight End are two entirely different positions.
Cooley, Sellers= H-Back, Royal, Baber=TE

B: Blocking TE= Dead give away
This is exactly why I`m hoping Royal can improve his blocking skills and become what the team really needs, an every down TE.

Rotating in an obvious " blocker " is only going to help opposing D`s. Predictabilty will get you killed in the NFL and we know this.

C: Heath Miller= VA native, Soft hands and 13 time all ACC offensive lineman of the week.
Damn I was hoping the Skins would draft that guy!

monk81 05-26-2005 08:45 PM

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[QUOTE=skinnyfan]Yea.....but its a real cheap league.....like $150 to enter......well......cheap for Cooley.[/QUOTE]

I was watching the Poker Tournaments on tv and there was a guy with a Redskin hat in the crowd, but he was leaning forward couldnt see his face....wondering if it was Cooley. Guess it wasn't if he only plays in the cheap games.....

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-27-2005 05:37 AM

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In the 2004 offseason, Betts might have been more attractive - he might have gotten us a low 2nd rounder or high 3rd rounder (after all, I think Lamar Gordon got the 'Fins a 4th rounder). Now, the guy isn't worth squat and it's highly unlikely he'd challenge any teams' starter.


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