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[url=http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/26/media/nfl-sunday-night-football/index.html]NFL cancels Sunday Night Football this week - Dec. 26, 2017[/url]

Cant blame them

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TBH I like the move, it makes all the games with playoff implications play at the same time which is a smart move. It looks like the NFL is tucking their tail because of the low ratings, but this is a smart play. Especially when you factor in that it's NYE.

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[quote=mooby;1184149]TBH I like the move, it makes all the games with playoff implications play at the same time which is a smart move. It looks like the NFL is tucking their tail because of the low ratings, but this is a smart play. Especially when you factor in that it's NYE.[/quote]

Yeah mostly the SNF game week 17 has no implications or very little. I agree play it all out and see what happens

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[quote=mooby;1184149]TBH I like the move, it makes all the games with playoff implications play at the same time which is a smart move. It looks like the NFL is tucking their tail because of the low ratings, but this is a smart play. Especially when you factor in that it's NYE.[/quote]

They tucking for sure

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Wow didn't know things were that bad for the NFL now.

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It’s already a very low TV ratings night. Why bother

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DeSean in the news
[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Bolt/Vehicle-registered-to-DeSean-Jackson-involved-in-accident-112793354[/url]

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[quote=HailGreen28;1184160]Wow didn't know things were that bad for the NFL now.[/quote]

Mark Cuban said a few years back that the NFL was in trouble, he was right

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[quote=HailGreen28;1184160]Wow didn't know things were that bad for the NFL now.[/quote]
Hopefully they are going to make some important changes over the off season:
scaling back Thursday night football
redefining a catch so that a catch really is a catch
fixing the supposedly fixed replay rules
and moving to a more football-esque game of football

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The NFL has gone soft it's just a fact and they are losing fans because of it. I'm all for heads up football but this is ridiculous.

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Giants Hire a GM......


[url=http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/york-giants-hire-dave-gettleman-general-manager-52033080]New York Giants hire Dave Gettleman as general manager - ABC News[/url]




I like it.

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[quote=Giantone;1184283]Giants Hire a GM......


[URL="http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/york-giants-hire-dave-gettleman-general-manager-52033080"]New York Giants hire Dave Gettleman as general manager - ABC News[/URL]




I like it.[/quote]

I'd wish you good luck but I'd rather you don't even get that. Gettleman's exit from the Panthers inspires confidence that the Giants won't return to SB-winning form either, after all the shit Steve Smith talked about him post-Panthers release and the way the franchise got rid of him felt like he was on to something.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1184194]Mark Cuban said a few years back that the NFL was in trouble, he was right[/QUOTE]

Was he though?

Per NBC, the NFL was the No. 1, 2 and 4 rated TV shows this fall.

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/BenVolin/status/946466172454699009[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1184207]Hopefully they are going to make some important changes over the off season:
scaling back Thursday night football
redefining a catch so that a catch really is a catch
fixing the supposedly fixed replay rules
and moving to a more football-esque game of football[/quote]

And what happens to the salary cap ? with tv ratings down will it still go up....will teams become more conservative in spending ?

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[quote=mooby;1184289]I'd wish you good luck but I'd rather you don't even get that. Gettleman's exit from the Panthers inspires confidence that the Giants won't return to SB-winning form either, after all the shit Steve Smith talked about him post-Panthers release and the way the franchise got rid of him felt like he was on to something.[/quote]

Many including me are thinking the other way.He takes no shit.This could mean the end of ODB in NY,his choice of a HC will be the clincher.


Again I like it.

[url=http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/12/giants_to_hire_dave_gettleman_as_new_general_manag.html]Giants hire Dave Gettleman as new general manager | NJ.com[/url]

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Silly question from a UK fan but is the tv losing viewers for any particular reason?

Too many reviews? Too many holding fouls that look minimal?

It's not to do with all the players knealing is it?

Genuine question from uk.

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[quote=RedskinUK;1184355]Silly question from a UK fan but is the tv losing viewers for any particular reason?

Too many reviews? Too many holding fouls that look minimal?

It's not to do with all the players knealing is it?

Genuine question from uk.[/quote]

Little bit of everything. Yes some of it the kneeling other is an over saturated market with games on Sunday and Sunday night,Monday,Thursday and some Saturdays,add in College games on Friday and Sat and High school games Friday and Sat.Bad product,not well played games games have been watered down with to many commercials and to many rules.The behavior of the players has all so turned many viewers off of the game and last,way to many injuries.

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The kneeling shit is a minimal impact at best.

It’s all about how people consume media today, the days of everyone huddled around their TV’s is over. People watch on their phones or tablets, or at their convenience on a DVR. And there are far more entertainment options than ever. NFL TV ratings may be lower than a few years ago, but the NFL is still a big draw and also still tops when compared to the other big sports leagues.

I think the decline in TV ratings is overrated. TV ratings are now a limited way to truly judge the popularity of the league.

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I have to disagree on this one. The kneeling issue is a bigger problem than people want to believe. Last week the ravens sent a letter to all of thier fans around the empty seats and player kneeling. If it was no big deal, the NFL would not have cut the players a shut the f up check.

There are other issues.

1. Nobody can explain a catch.
2. Referrers are not consistency.
3. Shit games on prime time: Thursday night, Sunday night, and Monday night.
4. Trying to make the game safer has caused it to become unwatchable.
5. RG and all of his screw ups. Spy gate, bounty gate, ball gate, etc......

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Also moving teams from market to market for more money. The chargers could not fill a 40k soccer stadium in LA.

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Me too. Difficult if not impossible to gauge the impact but there is one. I have at least 3 co-workers who have changed their viewing habits. 1 will still watch their team but not any other games. 2 quit watching and made a big deal of it. I suspect 1 of those didn't watch a lot to begin with but I know he watched some.

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In the UK most Premier League games are unwatchable now as they overanalyse every decision and key moment. They also mute the fans singing so as not to offend anyone watching sometimes. It's become a huge export but a weaker draw for the UK. Even local pubs are priced out of showing live games as it's extortionate.

Personally i love my NFL Sunday fix. Thursday/Monday nah its 2.15am when it kicks off over here.

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Every year it cost more and more just to go to a game. your average citizen is being priced right out of the experience.

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[quote=MTK;1184366]The kneeling shit is a minimal impact at best.

[B]It’s all about how people consume media today, the days of everyone huddled around their TV’s is over. People watch on their phones or tablets, or at their convenience on a DVR. [/B] And there are far more entertainment options than ever. NFL TV ratings may be lower than a few years ago, but the NFL is still a big draw and also still tops when compared to the other big sports leagues.

I think the decline in TV ratings is overrated. TV ratings are now a limited way to truly judge the popularity of the league.[/quote]

Then explain how TV viewership is up 12% on bowl games this year, sorry I have no link, heard it on ESPN radio. Of course ESPN broadcasts a lot of bowl games so it might not be an accurate number.

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I've watched less football this year than ever before. The quality of the football is at an all time low. The last two weeks I've watched Gabbert and Osweiler. Tomorrow is a 2 win Giants team that's atrocious. Top that off w/ a bunch of stupid ass flags that are thrown every week and it's a watered down product. A former shell of what the league use to be.

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Whether people like it or not, the protests starting with Kap has had a substantial impact

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Here is the irony. Revenue is created by the fans, fewer fans = less revenue, less revenue = no salary cap growth. In a few years, when the cap has become stagnant, will the players realize they were the cause?

I am guessing no. There will be a strike and they will make more demands and the owners will remind them of the issues they caused.

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I haven't watched nearly as many games. The first reason is the Skins play. The second is the officiating - especially the revised replay rules.

As much as I love NFL football - particularly fantasy and the Skins- it's easier to check on the web then to actually watch a full game.

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[quote=Chico23231;1184385]Whether people like it or not, the protests starting with Kap has had a substantial impact[/quote]

I agree Chico, those snowflakes got really butthurt about a guy kneeling during the anthem after a former Green Beret gave him the idea. That 1 minute really soured the whole 3 hour experience for them. For me it was hard to focus on enjoying the game knowing that a veteran would suggest the idea to disrespect the military like that.

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[quote=mooby;1184388]I agree Chico, those snowflakes got really butthurt about a guy kneeling during the anthem after a former Green Beret gave him the idea. That 1 minute really soured the whole 3 hour experience for them. For me it was hard to focus on enjoying the game knowing that a veteran would suggest the idea to disrespect the military like that.[/quote]

:D

Hey just saying.

Christmas gatherings with a large family full nfl fans...lotta folks told they watch their team and that’s it. A couple said no nfl anymore with one uncle who told me fuck the nfl...

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[quote=Chico23231;1184393]:D

Hey just saying.

Christmas gatherings with a large family full nfl fans...lotta folks told they watch their team and that’s it. A couple said no nfl anymore with one uncle who told me fuck the nfl...[/quote]

No doubt it chopped a few lukewarm fans off the block, but anybody who loves football didn't stop watching.

Anyways in the spirit of the holidays, here's something we can all enjoy:

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The NFL Has A Bigger Problem Than Kneeling Employees -- Demographics And Trends

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2017/09/29/the-nfl-has-a-bigger-problem-than-kneeling-employees-demographics-and-trends/#331927d94efc[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1184396]The NFL Has A Bigger Problem Than Kneeling Employees -- Demographics And Trends

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2017/09/29/the-nfl-has-a-bigger-problem-than-kneeling-employees-demographics-and-trends/#331927d94efc[/url][/quote]

Good article.

The concussion stuff I think really hurts parents getting their kids involved in little league football.

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The dysfunctional Giants

[url=http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/30/new-york-giants-damon-harrison-bobby-hart-nearly-beat-life-out/]Report: Damon Harrison nearly ‘beat the life out of’ Bobby Hart | Giants Wire[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1184398]The dysfunctional Giants

[url=http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/30/new-york-giants-damon-harrison-bobby-hart-nearly-beat-life-out/]Report: Damon Harrison nearly ‘beat the life out of’ Bobby Hart | Giants Wire[/url][/quote]

Definition of team:

Both Hart and fellow tackle, Ereck Flowers, apparently “checked out” this week and had informed coaches they didn’t intend to play on Sunday against the Washington Redskins. As a result, new general manager Dave Gettleman sent Hart packing and benched Flowers.

Ffs...Dumpster Fire on a new level

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[quote=Chico23231;1184399]Definition of team:

Both Hart and fellow tackle, Ereck Flowers, apparently “checked out” this week and had informed coaches they didn’t intend to play on Sunday against the Washington Redskins. As a result, new general manager Dave Gettleman sent Hart packing and benched Flowers.

Ffs...Dumpster Fire on a new level[/quote]

Enjoy it while it lasts, I swear if Kirk leaves we are going to settle back into the basement. Giants will be our only competition.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1184398]The dysfunctional Giants

[url=http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/30/new-york-giants-damon-harrison-bobby-hart-nearly-beat-life-out/]Report: Damon Harrison nearly ‘beat the life out of’ Bobby Hart | Giants Wire[/url][/quote]



No disagreement here.It's all so why we now have a new GM and soon to be Head coach.Giants will be a completely different team next year,you won't be able to compare the two.

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[quote=Chico23231;1184385]Whether people like it or not, the protests starting with Kap has had a substantial impact[/quote]

Yes they have, they have people talking about the protests and pretty much nothing else. Most people are unaware of all the crap Kaepernick has pulled. He is being manipulated by his left wing radical girlfriend like a puppet, he has no mind of his own.

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[quote=MTK;1184396]The NFL Has A Bigger Problem Than Kneeling Employees -- Demographics And Trends

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2017/09/29/the-nfl-has-a-bigger-problem-than-kneeling-employees-demographics-and-trends/#331927d94efc[/url][/quote]

I had said years ago that I would not pay to watch football (I don't mean actual game tickets) .I do pay for cable (Comcast) and the "On Demand" function has enable me to do a whole bunch of things add in DVR's and people are free to now go out and enjoy their Sunday's with family.I go into the functions pull up sports then NFL highlights and in 10/15 mins I have seen what I need to see, a great feature in years like this one for me.
The kneeling isn't a thing for me,just turn the channel till that is over.I just don't like the punks who are playing anymore,Yes I include ODB in that.The NFL needs the Eli's ,the Larry Fitzgerald's,the Kirk Cousins and JJ Watts....etc. Examples can be found good and bad on all the teams.

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Ratings started leveling off and declining before the kneeling controversy. If anyone has any hard data showing it’s a significant factor in the ratings I’d love to see it. And no, your uncle saying F the league is not legit data.