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Originally Posted by jsarno
Yes you are...I never once said white people are being held down in the NFL. Please pay attention to what I am saying and not making your own conclusions.
They are discriminated in basketball ONLY. Why are you lumping NFL and NBA in the same breathe? (and it's all you...not me...re-read if you have to) I have been very specific in saying that there is no racism in the NFL, black or white. That's what this topic is all about.
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So if we go by your logic one can presume, based on statistics, there is racism in hockey because not too many black people play it? How come you can make that leap about bball and I can't about hockey?
Lets turn our attention to baseball, there used to be lots of black players in the MLB but their numbers have been dwindling in the last few decades...why is that? It's discrimination that's why! MLB now prefers Latino players, especially those Cubans.
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Originally Posted by jsarno
Well, no one came to him. The ones he went to (this is from who I recall, but I know there were more) Florida, Florida State, Miami U, SFU, Georgia U, Arkansas U, Cal, UCLA, NC State, and UMASS. All turned him down. All for players that were inferior (at least by rankings). It was wrong. This happens more than you think, but since it's not PC to talk about white people being discriminated against, no one hears about it. It doesn't make it any more wrong. Ken was 6'7" and had mad ball handling skills. No one could keep up with him. He was a track star too...and still no scholarship.
So, even by what you said, 50 states, so that means he's a top 50 player across the country, and how come no one offered a scholarship? Not a single team!!!!????
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Does that mean he was discriminated against? That's life man, it's a bitch! Sometimes the deserving don't get an opportunity. That goes both ways too. You obviously feel that this guy was given the shaft but then again you think state ranking alone should be good enough to give him a roster spot. I can play the same card too...Stanford U and UVA wouldn't accept me even though I had very good grades and I was sure I had good enough marks to get in. I can only guess they met their black quota...lol.
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I don't know how to answer that. It's a stigma put on white players so they are not given the chance.
I tell you this, I guarentee if black people wanted to play hockey, and were kept out, they would make a huge fuss until someone made a law / rule that allowed a certain amount in. Why do the white people in this case not get that kind of respect?
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I do believe you've just validated what McNabb was saying. If there's stigma against white bball players why can't there be stigma against black QBs in this day and age?
BTW black people don't play hockey (or most of the sports you don't see them play for that matter) is because a) the cost of entry is high and b) they'd rather play bball or football. Finally, speaking for myself and people I know, we think hockey sucks donkey-d*ck. Hockey is figure skating with sticks and one of the most boring sport ever. If you take a poll among black people nation wide I'm confidant they'll tell you the same thing.
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Originally Posted by jsarno
Because the majority are white, you are saying there isn't a stigma against the white player? WOW. So by your thoughts, every black coach should have a black qb. But I guess, since none of them do, then I can make the leap that they think black qb's aren't as good as white qb's? That's absurd.
Come on guys...it's obvious there is a thought out there that white people can't play as good as black people in basketball. This is nothing new.
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Don't turn this around on me, I'm not the one trashing coaches around the country by labeling them racist because they aren't willing to coach and play quality white players.
The world isn't black or white my friend, it's shades of gray.
p.s. I wonder what your take on J.J. Riddick saga is.