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Old 08-13-2010, 04:51 PM   #102
GTripp0012
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Re: Good for Campbell

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Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life View Post
GTripp you say that Zorn calls protections in the plays right ? Go to Redskins.com and look up the post game press conference from 9-14-08 when we beat New Orleans. Listen to what Jim Zorn says about what Jason did and what they are working with him on. Secondly in that KC game Todd Collins got a delay of game because he was changing the protection. He made line adjustments. I feel that my opinion is good enough but I'm so persistent with my views because you all are so persistent in tellung me that I'm wrong for what I see. I don't get how you and so many other skins fans revere this guy. Let me stop with my overtly feminine and tiresome me against the world routine.

Be easy.

I appreciate how you can type up a nice post and be very eloquent with your delivery but it still doesn't prove a thing. If you have your own opinion of how things went you do. I see something different. Like I said his play has and will do the talking. It has said enough for me to say that he's sorry but you all see a star.
I don't think Collins was changing the protection on the play you reference, but obviously, the play clock is a limiting factor on how much you can tweak a play. Either way, tweaking the protection and setting it are two different things.

My point is you are not alone in your opinion. Other people see what you do. I have seen what you are referencing. I also see every other play, and make note of the negative, but do not dwell on it. I don't dwell on the positive either. There are many plays in a fb season. Campbell had almost 550 plays last year. He missed a wide open receiver maybe 8-9 times. He might have passed on a tough but makable throw two or three times as often.

If of 550 plays in the season, there are 180 bad plays made by the quarterback (sacks, avoidable incompletions, interceptions), and 20-30 of them are because the quarterback got confused and missed his read or held the ball too long, and cost the team some points and perhaps half a win to a win, well, there's room for improvement. But by NFL standards, there's not a problem.

We see the same film evidence. I might see it a few times more than most, but it's not a matter of differences in evidence. It's about understanding what a bad QB play is in NFL, and the best QBs in the NFL make 5-6 really bad QB plays in a single season.

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If we used logic consistent with the anti-Campbell arguments, the Saints should at least think about finding someone better than Drew Brees. Because he makes more than a few bad plays in any season, and if quarterbacks make bad plays, we have to hold them accountable. Drew Brees should be held accountable for his mistakes, and, thusly, the Saints should have been more aggressive in trying to acquire Donovan McNabb.

A good analyst focuses on the 150 plays that went bad with Campbell doing his job at least respectably. Doesn't make the other 30 excusable mistakes, but if you fix 8 mistakes by changing the QB to someone better, and now have 170 bad passing plays in a season, well, what have you really done?
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