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Old 03-18-2008, 09:26 PM   #1
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This is a GOOD reason why we shouldn't touch a WR in the 1st.

The 1996 NFL draft will forever be known as "The Year of the Receiver." Future NFL stars Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens, Joe Horn, Terry Glenn, Keyshawn Johnson, Eddie Kennison, Eric Moulds, Mushin Muhammad, Amani Toomer and Bobby Engram were all selected over the same weekend back in April of '96.

'Eleven years later, nine of those 10 players were on NFL rosters in '07, with only Keyshawn — the top pick overall in that draft — not suiting up on Sundays. Johnson, of course, spent Sundays last season in Bristol, Conn., working as an analyst for ESPN.

Want to know about the next generation of NFL stars? We've got you covered as the clock ticks down toward the 2008 draft. Last year's draft class of receivers proved to be somewhat bountiful as well. No. 2 overall selection Calvin Johnson had a promising rookie campaign, fellow first-rounders Dwayne Bowe, Ted Ginn, Craig Davis and Anthony Gonzalez were all solid contributors, and later-round picks Steve Smith, Sidney Rice and James Jones all played significant roles on some of the NFC's top teams. Add in the intriguing prospect of productive second years from 2007 rookie flops Robert Meachem and Dwayne Jarrett, and that's a pretty solid batch of receivers.'

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Re: This is a GOOD reason why we shouldn't touch a WR in the 1st.

Another good reason:
we need to draft a DB in the first round b/c thats what we need most.
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Re: This is a GOOD reason why we shouldn't touch a WR in the 1st.

Vinny Cerrato siad, that he does not think that there is a reciever, in this draft, that is worth a first round draft choice. Maybe, he is just trying to throw other teams off, but that is what he said.
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Vinny Cerrato siad, that he does not think that there is a reciever, in this draft, that is worth a first round draft choice. Maybe, he is just trying to throw other teams off, but that is what he said.
I feel like Vinny does and we can pick Talib in the 1st, Quentin Groves or Lawrence Jackson in the 2nd round, and I feel that Devin Thomas will still be there.
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I feel like Vinny does and we can pick Talib in the 1st, Quentin Groves or Lawrence Jackson in the 2nd round, and I feel that Devin Thomas will still be there.
Devin Thomas has Brandon Lloyd II, written all over him, he had on good year, has way too many drops, "Only one productive year in major college football. ... Will need to prove he's a legitimate downfield threat. ... Doesn't always make the tough deep catch that the best receivers do. ... Tries to do too much at times, dancing after the catch instead of heading upfield. ... Could sustain better when blocking larger safeties and linebackers." Here is a link:NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Devin Thomas
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Devin Thomas has Brandon Lloyd II, written all over him, he had on good year, has way too many drops, "Only one productive year in major college football. ... Will need to prove he's a legitimate downfield threat. ... Doesn't always make the tough deep catch that the best receivers do. ... Tries to do too much at times, dancing after the catch instead of heading upfield. ... Could sustain better when blocking larger safeties and linebackers." Here is a link:NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Devin Thomas
I agree with you here. No player in this draft screams bust more than Devin Thomas.

Is he doomed? Not necessarily. But an intelligent GM would let him get well, well past the slot where his skills grade out before they take a shot on him.

If I'm a GM, I wouldn't touch him before the third round, when his physical skills would then justify the huge risk I'm taking on him.
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Devin Thomas has Brandon Lloyd II, written all over him, he had on good year, has way too many drops, "Only one productive year in major college football. ... Will need to prove he's a legitimate downfield threat. ... Doesn't always make the tough deep catch that the best receivers do. ... Tries to do too much at times, dancing after the catch instead of heading upfield. ... Could sustain better when blocking larger safeties and linebackers." Here is a link:NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Devin Thomas
I see what you are saying but I think he has the potential to be coached into a good pro player.
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i dont think there isn't really a corner worth drafting the first round except maybe cromarties cousin...we should've went after Randall Gay or maybe even deangelo hall for a second rounder.
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i dont think there isn't really a corner worth drafting the first round except maybe cromarties cousin...we should've went after Randall Gay or maybe even deangelo hall for a second rounder.
Rogers-Cromartie is nothing special. He is a track star playing football. Some team is going to pick him in the first round because of his impressive 40 time and he is more than likely going to bust. Please don't let it be us.


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Well I'd draft an impact d-lineman in the first if there were good ones available, but if he's still on the board I would love to see DRC in a 'Skins uni. I think a tall WR should be a priority in the second round though provided some of the bigger names are still available.
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Mike Jenkins from USF will be a shutdown corner in 2-3 years.
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, corners. Alright time for my latest bunch of propoganda.

Safetys are the new corners. For now I'll just keep it simple. Who has done more for their respective defenses?

DeAngelo Hall and Champ Bailey

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Bob Sanders and Troy Polamlu. By the way does anyone even know off the top of their head who the starting corners are for the Colts and Steelers? Also the last time we took a corner in the draft we passed up on Shawn Meriman.
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Old 03-19-2008, 01:38 AM   #13
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Re: This is a GOOD reason why we shouldn't touch a WR in the 1st.

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, corners. Alright time for my latest bunch of propoganda.

Safetys are the new corners. For now I'll just keep it simple. Who has done more for their respective defenses?

DeAngelo Hall and Champ Bailey

or

Bob Sanders and Troy Polamlu. By the way does anyone even know off the top of their head who the starting corners are for the Colts and Steelers? Also the last time we took a corner in the draft we passed up on Shawn Meriman.
I'm not sure it's as simple as that. I mean if Champ Bailey and Troy Polamalu were on the same team, and each missed five games (not together) can you definitively say that the team would be better off in the five games Champ missed?

But more importantly, you're not the defensive coordinator of the Redskins. And neither am I. Greg Blache is. And Mr. Blaches says:

"A lot of people disagree with me on this but I firmly believe that in order to be successful on defense in today's football it starts with your corner position."

Blache Talks Philosophy: Cornerbacks Are Key
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I'm not sure it's as simple as that. I mean if Champ Bailey and Troy Polamalu were on the same team, and each missed five games (not together) can you definitively say that the team would be better off in the five games Champ missed?

But more importantly, you're not the defensive coordinator of the Redskins. And neither am I. Greg Blache is. And Mr. Blaches says:

"A lot of people disagree with me on this but I firmly believe that in order to be successful on defense in today's football it starts with your corner position."

Blache Talks Philosophy: Cornerbacks Are Key
Are you seriousley going to take the word of an experienced NFL coordinator over mine? This is blasphamy. I have a blog.

In all seriousness I would be one of the people that disagree with Blache (obviously). So with that said I would much rather have a guy like Kenny Phillips instead of a guy like DRC, who I'll admit is tempting. However I'd rather have two safetys knocking the crap out of people coming over the middle and providing support on the deep ball then two corners of the same caliber. I guess from my perspective I just see safetys more involved throughout the course of a game.

I'd also argue that guys like Polomalu, Reed, and Bob Sanders have had a bigger impact on the game then Champ Bailey, Chris McAlister, Rasheen Mathis, and Nate Clements. Especially considering that we live in an a time where corners aren't allowed to be nearly as physical as they were, say 10 years ago.

However its obvious that the beliefs of the Defensive Coordinator, who was promised a good amount of power will have a pretty loud voice on draft day when it comes to drafting defensive players and if that voice calls for the team to take a corner on draft day, then so be it.
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, corners. Alright time for my latest bunch of propoganda.

Bob Sanders and Troy Polamlu. By the way does anyone even know off the top of their head who the starting corners are for the Colts and Steelers? Also the last time we took a corner in the draft we passed up on Shawn Meriman.
Interesting theory, safeties are the new corners. Especially in a cover two style defense where the corners don't have to match up man-to-man. But, you still have to have decent corners. I think the Colts have knack for evaluating good db's because of Dungy.

Without research i can name Kelvin Hayden, Marlin Jackson, and Tim Jennings. I have no clue who the Steelers corners are though. (I must admit i was in a fantasy football league that kept individual defense player stats.)
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