Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey

amorentz · 01-03-2006, 02:44 PM

Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest...

At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market.

Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick.

Thoughts?

dmek25 · 01-03-2006, 02:49 PM

i dont know enough about john abrahams to want him on our team.that seems to be the talk.the jets contact talks with him are nill right now.if he can play ,this would seem a better trade than an unproven second rounder

firstdown · 01-03-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by amorentz

Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest...

At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market.

Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick.

Thoughts?

That was a nasty looking play where Brees got injured. Don't be so fast to think Ramsey will be gone next year. His cap hit is not to bad and Gibbs likes two QB's with exp. and I think Ramsey is learning alot watching Brunell.

hooskins · 01-03-2006, 02:50 PM

I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see.

amorentz · 01-03-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see.

No, I wasnt suggesting that he be the starter there, just that the market for him might pick up a bit because none of the SD QBs are going to be on the market.

EXoffender · 01-03-2006, 02:52 PM

It does help Ramsey but not drastically. There's a few QBs coming out of the college ranks this year that promise to hit the ground running. And with GB increasing the likehood of Favre parting ways, maybe there won't be a lot of teams interested.

MTK · 01-03-2006, 03:39 PM

Word is the Chargers weren't going to part with Rivers even before Brees' injury unless they were to receive a killer offer.

This could help the market for Ramsey, but I don't think it will change things much.

Who knows, as firstdown said Ramsey could be back next year. We'll have to wait and see.

CrazyCanuck · 01-03-2006, 03:50 PM

Ramsey could be back next year. A lot will depend on Campbell's readiness and the market for PR. There's no way I see us simply giving Ramsey away. Gibbs already has QB paranoia so I don't see Ramsey moving unless we can find a really good deal.

Hog1 · 01-03-2006, 03:49 PM

Look at the Pool of available QB's?????????? it's like the pool of PROVEN, GOOD, available head coach's. It doesn't exist. It is a SELLERS market. All demand, and very little supply. It can't get much better for us if we choose to deal him.

12thMan · 01-03-2006, 04:15 PM

I've thought every since the Giants game that Gibbs would be very, very reluctant to let Ramsey go. It would have to be a really sweet deal.

Paintrain · 01-03-2006, 04:26 PM

Well I think the Saints getting the #2 pick hurts us because that was a perfect sutuation to send Ramsey to for a 2nd round pick but looking around the league I only see a few teams in need of a starting QB..

Arizona, though they will probably go after Culpepper in a trade
Detroit, Harrington is probably done
KC as a succesor to Trent Green
Minnesota if they deal Culpepper

memphisskin · 01-03-2006, 04:31 PM

Campbell is going to play at some point, might as well get what we can from Ramsey in a trade. Abraham seems too good to be true, adding a 10+ sack guy to our defensive line rotation makes put our defense over the top. Ramsey is not the guy here, so we may as well get something of value in return from him. I agree that he's as immobile as Bledsoe.

#56fanatic · 01-04-2006, 10:59 AM

Ramsey is going to be in the same situation he was here. He is not going to be brought in and handed the team, "here its yours, here are the keys" He is going to have to compete with a veteran, or maybe a draft pick to earn the spot. I would bet its not going to be here.

70Chip · 01-06-2006, 09:19 PM

I don't believe that Ramsey's reputation is such that a trade would bring value. I think the best thing for the Redskins would be to keep him around another season. I suspect Patrick (and his agent) believe that he is a starter and would not quietly accept another season as backup. Of course coach pulled a fast one on the Jets last year that nobody saw coming so maybe he can salvage something put of this situation. Does anyone know the specifics of Ramsey's contract? Please advise.

wheeler · 01-06-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I've thought every since the Giants game that Gibbs would be very, very reluctant to let Ramsey go. It would have to be a really sweet deal.

your right he's not going anywhere.he's (ramsey) a tough kid. gibbs likes 'em tough

01-03-2006, 02:44 PM	#1
amorentz Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 45 Posts: 368	Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest... At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market. Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick. Thoughts?

01-03-2006, 02:50 PM	#4
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see. __________________ Vacancy

01-03-2006, 02:52 PM	#6
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey It does help Ramsey but not drastically. There's a few QBs coming out of the college ranks this year that promise to hit the ground running. And with GB increasing the likehood of Favre parting ways, maybe there won't be a lot of teams interested.

01-03-2006, 03:39 PM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Word is the Chargers weren't going to part with Rivers even before Brees' injury unless they were to receive a killer offer. This could help the market for Ramsey, but I don't think it will change things much. Who knows, as firstdown said Ramsey could be back next year. We'll have to wait and see. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-03-2006, 03:50 PM	#8
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Ramsey could be back next year. A lot will depend on Campbell's readiness and the market for PR. There's no way I see us simply giving Ramsey away. Gibbs already has QB paranoia so I don't see Ramsey moving unless we can find a really good deal.

01-03-2006, 02:49 PM	#2
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey i dont know enough about john abrahams to want him on our team.that seems to be the talk.the jets contact talks with him are nill right now.if he can play ,this would seem a better trade than an unproven second rounder

01-03-2006, 03:49 PM	#9
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Look at the Pool of available QB's?????????? it's like the pool of PROVEN, GOOD, available head coach's. It doesn't exist. It is a SELLERS market. All demand, and very little supply. It can't get much better for us if we choose to deal him. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-03-2006, 04:15 PM	#10
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey I've thought every since the Giants game that Gibbs would be very, very reluctant to let Ramsey go. It would have to be a really sweet deal.

01-03-2006, 04:26 PM	#11
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Well I think the Saints getting the #2 pick hurts us because that was a perfect sutuation to send Ramsey to for a 2nd round pick but looking around the league I only see a few teams in need of a starting QB.. Arizona, though they will probably go after Culpepper in a trade Detroit, Harrington is probably done KC as a succesor to Trent Green Minnesota if they deal Culpepper __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

01-03-2006, 04:31 PM	#12
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Campbell is going to play at some point, might as well get what we can from Ramsey in a trade. Abraham seems too good to be true, adding a 10+ sack guy to our defensive line rotation makes put our defense over the top. Ramsey is not the guy here, so we may as well get something of value in return from him. I agree that he's as immobile as Bledsoe.

01-04-2006, 10:59 AM	#13
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey Ramsey is going to be in the same situation he was here. He is not going to be brought in and handed the team, "here its yours, here are the keys" He is going to have to compete with a veteran, or maybe a draft pick to earn the spot. I would bet its not going to be here.

01-06-2006, 09:19 PM	#14
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey I don't believe that Ramsey's reputation is such that a trade would bring value. I think the best thing for the Redskins would be to keep him around another season. I suspect Patrick (and his agent) believe that he is a starter and would not quietly accept another season as backup. Of course coach pulled a fast one on the Jets last year that nobody saw coming so maybe he can salvage something put of this situation. Does anyone know the specifics of Ramsey's contract? Please advise.

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