Best of what's left

[That Guy]

these are guys that have fallen a bit and are still available at the start of day two. if you don't see a position, then no one of note is left that's rated above the 4th round.

RB: leon washington (3)
FB: lawrence vickers (3-4)
TE: tim day (3-4)
WR: demetrius williams (2)
... todd watkins (2-3)
... devin aromashodu (2-3)
... jason avant (3)
... mike hass (3)
OG: max jean gilles (2)
... fred matua (3)
OT: ryan o'callaghan (2-3)
... guy whimper (3)
... jonathan scott (3-4)

DE: victor adeyanju (2-3)
... ray edwards (3)
... stanley mcclover (3)
... parys haralson (3)
DT: gabe watson (2)
... orien harris (2-3)
CB: alan zemaitis (2)
... dee webb (2-3)
... marcus maxey (3-4)
FS: Ko simpson (2)
... pat watkins (2-3)
... antoine bethea (3-4)
... greg blue (3-4)
SS: darnell bing (1-2)
... calvin lowry (3-4)


best talent is at DT, S, and OG if you need a starter. each has 2 starters left.

[70Chip]

Good stuff. Thanks for all the good stuff, That Guy.

[ST21]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Good stuff. Thanks for all the good stuff, That Guy.

I AGREE.....GOOD STUFF.....MAKES IT FUN TO SEE WHO WE MIGHT CHOOSE, ANY THOUGHTS ON REGGIE O'NEAL OUT OF A&M.....HE CAN BE VERSITLE

[GTripp0012]

I can't believe some of these guys got through:

1. Gabe Watson-He has effort issues, but he's so good that a team would have been perfectly justified spending a late 1st on him.

2. Max Jean-Gilles-Big guard can play 4 positions on the Oline. Should have gone in the top half of round 2.

3. Orien Harris-Run Stuffing DT could have easily gone to a team like the Giants in the 2nd...but they were too busy taking players they didn't need.

4. Darnell Bing-Not a huge Bing fan, but it goes to show that a lot of 2nd tier safeties got taken before some of the big guys.

5. Ko Simpson-Another guy with range who should have gone in the middle of round two. Safety prospects look promising for round 5 if we go there.

Best of the rest:

6. Jonathon Scott, OT, Texas
7. Mark Anderson, 3-4 OLB, Oklahoma
8. Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota
9. Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue
10. Pat Watkins, S, Florida State
11. Kai Parham, ILB, Virginia
12. Rod Wright, DT, Texas
13. Reggie McNeal, QB, Texas A&M
14. Demetrius Williams, WR, Oregon
15. Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
16. Calvin Lowry, S, Penn State
17. Babatunde Oshiwindu, DT, Stanford
18. Fred Matua, OG, USC
19. Rob Sims, OG, Ohio State
20. Kevin Boothe, OG, Cornell
21. Ryan O'Callaghan, OT, California
22. Leon Washington, RB, Florida State
23. Anwar Phillips, CB, Penn State
24. Andre Hall, RB, South Florida
25. Mike Hass, WR, Oregon State

[SKINSnCANES]

if we can trade our 5th and 6th round pick and a 5th next year or somethign to get a 4th this year and get Orien Harris we will get a steal this late in the draft. Him with C griff and our new end will make our line a lot better

[Sociofan]

The two biggest shocks to me are Demetrius Williams and Darnell Bing still being on the board. I know that Bing has a knock for intelligence, but Williams should have gone ahead of guys like Hagan and Brandon Williams. Then again, I was surprised to see Stovall go so late.

Other big shocks:

LenDale White went so low.
Ashton Youboty lasted into the third round (he was projected as a 1st rounder on a lot of boards)
Matt Leinart was still on the board at #10.
Washington traded UP to get McIntosh, who I believe would have still been there at #53.

Just goes to show you that draft day is far from a science.

[70Chip]

I like Greg Blue out of Georgia but we have already signed Archiletta.

That Guy: I thought Gilles was a blue chipper. Why did he fall out?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I like Greg Blue out of Georgia but we have already signed Archiletta.

That Guy: I thought Gilles was a blue chipper. Why did he fall out?

weight/motor/speed issues (they're all related). he has to work hard to stay under 360lbs, he only runs a 5.5, and he's worthless on the second level, cause he can wear out easily. for a team like the colts or AZ he'd be perfect.

ray brown had the exact same issues gilles has, but he was fine for us, so those negatives shouldn't be considered a death-knell. This guy just isn't going to be pulling like randy thomas.

fred matui is the best "athletic" OG left, and he's also polished. spencer gives you the a best of both, but he's a bit of a project, since he only played OL two years, and OG for one. (two years at DT previous to that).

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Sociofan

The two biggest shocks to me are Demetrius Williams and Darnell Bing still being on the board. I know that Bing has a knock for intelligence, but Williams should have gone ahead of guys like Hagan and Brandon Williams. Then again, I was surprised to see Stovall go so late.

Other big shocks:

LenDale White went so low.
Ashton Youboty lasted into the third round (he was projected as a 1st rounder on a lot of boards)
Matt Leinart was still on the board at #10.
Washington traded UP to get McIntosh, who I believe would have still been there at #53.

Just goes to show you that draft day is far from a science.

youboty was over concerns he's technique is bad and he tends to get beat deep peeking into the backfield too long... he's also small for run support (which is like the A1 concern for GW when he picks corners).

Lendale was the not running, not working out, and bad interviews.

The others are harder to explain (leinhart was just a talent that couldn't find someone with a need at QB. matt millen had a good case, but detriot fans may have shot him for it. AZ is a nice warm (no snow) place without the wind of other places, which is a good fit).

[Big C]

gabe watson, orien harris, and max jean gilles would be excellent picks i think for us if we could somehow get into the 4th round...

[diehardskin2982]

who do you want to see here. If you were the gm who would you get?

As for me my list of potential guys are:

Elvis Dumervil DE/ LB Louisville
Brad Butler Tackle Virginia
Gerrick McPhearson/ CB Maryland
Alan Zemaitis cb/penn state
Demetrius Williams wr oregon
Jason Pociask TE Wisconsin
Martin Nance WR Miami (OH)

These are just some names of the guys I like still out there and if they come up during our pick I hope we give them a glance

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Ko Simpson or Darnell Bing (4th - trade up)
Matt Berstein (6th)

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

who do you want to see here. If you were the gm who would you get?

As for me my list of potential guys are:

Elvis Dumervil DE/ LB Louisville
Brad Butler Tackle Virginia
Gerrick McPhearson/ CB Maryland
Alan Zemaitis cb/penn state
Demetrius Williams wr oregon
Jason Pociask TE Wisconsin
Martin Nance WR Miami (OH)

These are just some names of the guys I like still out there and if they come up during our pick I hope we give them a glance

Butler is pretty good, but he really pulled a dirty move agaisnt BC this year

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I would like to see us give long hard looks at Bing and Simpson in the early 4th (yes, that would require trading up).

I would also like to see us take Matt Bernstein in the 6th round. He's a massive guard-like fullback who would be a great lead-blocker on short-yardage and goal-line situations. Think a young Mike Sellers.

[diehardskin2982]

u started the thread the same time i started mine thatguy I guess someone will just have to merge them