What must Brunell do?

GoSkins! · 09-30-2006, 10:36 PM

There has been more than a bit of Brunell bashing over the last few weeks. He got a bit of a reprieve after the Texans game, but there are still questions. Now we face the Jags, a team that has held some good offenses in check and Peyton Manning to around a 50% completion rate.

My question is this:
What do you expect from Brunell against the Jags so that you won't be calling for his head after the game?

70Chip · 09-30-2006, 10:47 PM

Get the ball out quickly to the guys who can make plays, don't force things, and hope that the defense rises up and plays their best game of the year. It's going to be hit and miss against the Jacksonville defense. Opportunistic patience.

Daseal · 09-30-2006, 11:21 PM

I actually disagree, 70Chip. Brunell needs to force some things. Part of the problem with Brunell is he's often so safe with the ball that we can't convert because our receivers don't have a 10 step lead on the DB. Brunell is going to have to make some big throws into coverage for us to win this game. We're going against a hard hitting defense, but you can wear them down. While the short passing game is great for some of the game, we need to take a strike or two down field to loosen em' up a little.

70Chip · 10-01-2006, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I actually disagree, 70Chip. Brunell needs to force some things. Part of the problem with Brunell is he's often so safe with the ball that we can't convert because our receivers don't have a 10 step lead on the DB. Brunell is going to have to make some big throws into coverage for us to win this game. We're going against a hard hitting defense, but you can wear them down. While the short passing game is great for some of the game, we need to take a strike or two down field to loosen em' up a little.

I think he's too careful as well, but I don't know that Jacksonville is the best team to turn gunslinger against. One quick change and the game gets away from you. Your point is well taken though. I have screamed at the TV more than once this year, "For God's sake just throw it, man!".

Alvin#40 · 09-30-2006, 11:35 PM

If he can convert 50% of 3rd downs and ZERO INTs, we will win this game.

saskin · 09-30-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

There has been more than a bit of Brunell bashing over the last few weeks. He got a bit of a reprieve after the Texans game, but there are still questions. Now we face the Jags, a team that has held some good offenses in check and Peyton Manning to around a 50% completion rate.

My question is this:
What do you expect from Brunell against the Jags so that you won't be calling for his head after the game?

If Brunell won a Superbowl for us, most fans would still be calling for his head. Some people will just never lay off Brunell.

When someone told me that the backup QB is always the most popular, I never really believed them until the last few years.

EternalEnigma21 · 10-01-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by saskin

If Brunell won a Superbowl for us, most fans would still be calling for his head. Some people will just never lay off Brunell.

When someone told me that the backup QB is always the most popular, I never really believed them until the last few years.

yeah... its just a bunch of unprovoked harassment... I mean, any QB that can beat the Texans is OK by me... I mean.. its not like we expect our QB to carry more than a 40 passer rating against actual contending teams or anything...

wow, bunch of fairweather bandwagon fans these fuckers are...

htownskinfan · 10-01-2006, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

yeah... its just a bunch of unprovoked harassment... I mean, any QB that can beat the Texans is OK by me... I mean.. its not like we expect our QB to carry more than a 40 passer rating against actual contending teams or anything...

wow, bunch of fairweather bandwagon fans these fuckers are...

lol,great post

EternalEnigma21 · 10-01-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by saskin

If Brunell won a Superbowl for us, most fans would still be calling for his head. Some people will just never lay off Brunell.

When someone told me that the backup QB is always the most popular, I never really believed them until the last few years.

All right, for real, I don't think this is just a case of calling for the head of the QB for no reason... I think he plays scared and he's not a take-charge QB that we need to run a High-Powered offense....

I see him coming off the field with that wince after every 3 & out, and I want to slap him in the head and scream at him to grow some fucking balls and man-handle a D like he has the potential to play this GAME.

I would like to see him succeed, but I don't want to die by his hand this year...

Big C · 10-01-2006, 12:03 AM

i like mark brunell let me say that, i hope he stays the starter the whole season. but for ppl to be satisfied he must:

1. Convert 3rd downs
-Aside from the Texans game, it was 3 and out central
2. Continue to not make mistakes
3. Let our playmakers make the plays. gotta get them the ball, simple as

saden1 · 10-01-2006, 12:59 AM

What must Brunell do? Don't botch QB-Center exchanges, don't fumble, give the ball to Clinton and give it to him some more. Finally, when he has to throw, he shouldn't throw it to a defensive player.

offiss · 10-01-2006, 02:17 AM

In order to beat the Jags he has to stand in the pocket long enough to allow the recievers to break free downfield, unfortunatly Brunell will be running backwards before the first snap. The problem that will encure this week that didn't happen last week is that the Jags will take away all those little dink and dunk pass plays and force Brunell to throw downfield knowing he can't, or wont in the presence of there D-line, I think we will see a lot of quick throws to players who have no chance for a first down, or he will throw it away before anyone has a chance to close in on him.

The basic game plan for anyone who plays us, force Brunell to beat you deep, no one believes he can, or that he is even willing to try. Goodluck running this week Clinton without a downfield passing game your going to need it.

GoSkins! · 10-01-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

The basic game plan for anyone who plays us, force Brunell to beat you deep, no one believes he can, or that he is even willing to try. Goodluck running this week Clinton without a downfield passing game your going to need it.

offiss, I disagree with your statement as is, but you hit the main point. Last year proved that Brunell can certainly hit the long throws, especially early in the season while his arm is not tired. The problem this year (and it has been seen before) is that he has not been willing to step into his throws when pressure is in his face. That is what he needs to do to really make me believe in him again. I don't think he is throwing deep because he won't look deep for fear of getting hit. I hope I'm wrong.

GTripp0012 · 10-03-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

offiss, I disagree with your statement as is, but you hit the main point. Last year proved that Brunell can certainly hit the long throws, especially early in the season while his arm is not tired. The problem this year (and it has been seen before) is that he has not been willing to step into his throws when pressure is in his face. That is what he needs to do to really make me believe in him again. I don't think he is throwing deep because he won't look deep for fear of getting hit. I hope I'm wrong.

Although toughness is certainly a virtue for a NFL quarterback, I think we have to keep his health in mind. We don't have anything behind Brunell. So he, at age 36, can't be pulling Leftwich's and stepping into injury. Just can't happen. Yes, he throws off his back foot more than I'd like and loses accuracy, but keep the big picture in mind here; he needs to make it through the season.

I get the feeling that if we are in a tied Super Bowl in the 3rd quarter and Santana breaks free on a deep post, Brunell will step right into a D Lineman to deliever the ball in stride.

railcon56 · 10-01-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

In order to beat the Jags he has to stand in the pocket long enough to allow the recievers to break free downfield, unfortunatly Brunell will be running backwards before the first snap. The problem that will encure this week that didn't happen last week is that the Jags will take away all those little dink and dunk pass plays and force Brunell to throw downfield knowing he can't, or wont in the presence of there D-line, I think we will see a lot of quick throws to players who have no chance for a first down, or he will throw it away before anyone has a chance to close in on him.

The basic game plan for anyone who plays us, force Brunell to beat you deep, no one believes he can, or that he is even willing to try. Goodluck running this week Clinton without a downfield passing game your going to need it.

I think you're right but i hope it doesn't turn out that way!!!

09-30-2006, 10:36 PM	#1
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 56 Posts: 1,587	What must Brunell do? There has been more than a bit of Brunell bashing over the last few weeks. He got a bit of a reprieve after the Texans game, but there are still questions. Now we face the Jags, a team that has held some good offenses in check and Peyton Manning to around a 50% completion rate. My question is this: What do you expect from Brunell against the Jags so that you won't be calling for his head after the game? __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

09-30-2006, 10:47 PM	#2
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: What must Brunell do? Get the ball out quickly to the guys who can make plays, don't force things, and hope that the defense rises up and plays their best game of the year. It's going to be hit and miss against the Jacksonville defense. Opportunistic patience. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

09-30-2006, 11:21 PM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: What must Brunell do? I actually disagree, 70Chip. Brunell needs to force some things. Part of the problem with Brunell is he's often so safe with the ball that we can't convert because our receivers don't have a 10 step lead on the DB. Brunell is going to have to make some big throws into coverage for us to win this game. We're going against a hard hitting defense, but you can wear them down. While the short passing game is great for some of the game, we need to take a strike or two down field to loosen em' up a little. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

09-30-2006, 11:35 PM	#5
Alvin#40 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Born Va now Phx, Az Age: 55 Posts: 164	Re: What must Brunell do? If he can convert 50% of 3rd downs and ZERO INTs, we will win this game.

10-01-2006, 12:03 AM	#10
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: What must Brunell do? i like mark brunell let me say that, i hope he stays the starter the whole season. but for ppl to be satisfied he must: 1. Convert 3rd downs -Aside from the Texans game, it was 3 and out central 2. Continue to not make mistakes 3. Let our playmakers make the plays. gotta get them the ball, simple as __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

10-01-2006, 12:59 AM	#11
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: What must Brunell do? What must Brunell do? Don't botch QB-Center exchanges, don't fumble, give the ball to Clinton and give it to him some more. Finally, when he has to throw, he shouldn't throw it to a defensive player. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

10-01-2006, 02:17 AM	#12
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: What must Brunell do? In order to beat the Jags he has to stand in the pocket long enough to allow the recievers to break free downfield, unfortunatly Brunell will be running backwards before the first snap. The problem that will encure this week that didn't happen last week is that the Jags will take away all those little dink and dunk pass plays and force Brunell to throw downfield knowing he can't, or wont in the presence of there D-line, I think we will see a lot of quick throws to players who have no chance for a first down, or he will throw it away before anyone has a chance to close in on him. The basic game plan for anyone who plays us, force Brunell to beat you deep, no one believes he can, or that he is even willing to try. Goodluck running this week Clinton without a downfield passing game your going to need it.

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