T.J. Duckett Conspiracy

[SlabHurta]

I am one of those pissed off fans who wants to know wut the hell the front office was thinking picking up T.J. Duckett for a third round pick. He played like 2 downs against Dallas and has been invisible ever since. This is a guy who ran on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and goalline situations for the Falcons his entire career. And almost 85% of the time he would either pick up the first down or the touchdown. So wtf is up with him not getting that carry last week against New York on 4th and 1, rather then Gibbs being so conservative and attempting the field goal, which the much also worthless John Hall missed. Also, against he Jags we had a 3rd and 2 to close out the game and probably not even go to overtime, and we rushed Betts and he didn't pick it up, when Duckett has done stuff like that his entire career.

Gibbs did mention in a press conference recently that he reall wanted to get him in there and would love to see him play, I'm not satisfied with this waste yet. We've had to many opportunities to to use Duckett for the coaches to not use him. It just makes me mad. How about you guys?

[EternalEnigma21]

wow... tell us how you really feel!

[MTK]

So what's the conspiracy?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So what's the conspiracy?

Gibbs has Buyer's remorse disorder?

[Hogroll]

I thought he was out on injury right now. Ankle? Hamstring?

[SouperMeister]

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

please,please,do not question gibbs or snyder,they are gods and bygod they know what theyre doing! and the warpath gods will strike you down for having the audacity to question them
#1.brunell is not the problem,he's great
#2.hall is not the problem,he's great
#3.frost is not the problem,he's great
#4.synder is not the problem,he's great
#5.gibbs is not the problem,he's great
#6.gregg williams is not the problem,he's great
just keep repeating these 6 things to yourself and everything will be fine

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

This is how I have always viewed a lot of these moves. I don't know who is actually doing most of the negotiating in the 'Skins FO but he makes me scratch my head. He gets the players he and Gibbs want but the picks he gives for them are just excessive. I think many other GM's could get the same players and give up much less for them.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Rexi

This is how I have always viewed a lot of these moves. I don't know who is actually doing most of the negotiating in the 'Skins FO but he makes me scratch my head. He gets the players he and Gibbs want but the picks he gives for them are just excessive. I think many other GM's could get the same players and give up much less for them.

like waiting a month and getting lloyd for free... "but we have a 3rd and a 4th, and uh, we don't really want to USE them, now do we?"

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by That Guy

like waiting a month and getting lloyd for free... "but we have a 3rd and a 4th, and uh, we don't really want to USE them, now do we?"

I think we tendered him for a year, so you guys would have had to wait a year to get him if not for the trade.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

I agree. I'm all for trying to improve our team thru the draft and free agency but let's not go overboard, which i believe will eventually hurt us.

BTW- Someone mentioned we could just trade Duckett. Who is going to give us a 3rd rounder for him? 4, 5, 6? Not likely.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I for one am extremely pissed at the cavalier attitude we have toward using draft choices to build good, cheap depth. Champ for Portis? Sure, and we'll throw in a 2nd round pick for good measure. Brunell about to get cut by the Jags? Wait, we'll give you a 3rd for him. Trade up to get Jason Campbell? Here Denver, take 3 more of our picks, including a #1, and we won't let the kid see the light of day. Same with Duckett, but we "only" gave up a 3rd so that he can ride the pine. Then there's Brandon Lloyd - let's give up a 3rd and a 4th, sign him to a long term contract, then throw him the ball about as often as we threw it to Taylor Jacobs.

Wonder why we have no depth? We keep trading picks for guys with limited roles. Is this any way to build a long-term winner? I love how New England and Philly stockpile draft picks, and build a team through the draft first and fill the few remaining holes with free agency. I call that the "anti-Danny" approach to running a football team. I hope that Gibbs and The Danny can win consistently with their approach, but I won't hold my breath on that.

This team gives away draft picks like Xmas presents, it amazing. If memory serves I think the skins only have something like 1 pick in next year's draft. How this builds the team for the future (as JG said he was going to do whe he was re-hired) I'm not really sure. I know of no perennially successful teams that abandon the draft like the redskins do. Maybe that's why the redskins have not been very successful since 1992.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by irish

This team gives away draft picks like Xmas presents, it amazing. If memory serves I think the skins only have something like 1 pick in next year's draft. How this builds the team for the future (as JG said he was going to do whe he was re-hired) I'm not really sure. I know of no perennially successful teams that abandon the draft like the redskins do. Maybe that's why the redskins have not been very successful since 1992.

Of our twenty two starters on both offense and defense, only five are our very own draft choices. Samuels, Jansen and Dockery on the OL, Rogers, and Taylor in the defensive secondary. Is this really the way you want to build a football team?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Of our twenty two starters on both offense and defense, only five are our very own draft choices. Samuels, Jansen and Dockery on the OL, Rogers, and Taylor in the defensive secondary. Is this really the way you want to build a football team?

You're forgetting a few. Cooley, Marshall, and Sellers.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You're forgetting a few. Cooley, Marshall, and Sellers.

Yeah Matty I forgot about Cooley, and wasn't sure about Marshall or Sellers being DC's.