Jon Jansen: Starter Next Year?

12thMan · 12-13-2007, 02:55 PM

I think this is a valid argument. Some would like to see the Redskins move in another direction and draft or possibly acquire another starting tackle, but I think Jon Jansen still has a future with this team. Perhaps as a starter, and baring a set back with his recovery I think you can expect to see him in training camp again next year.

One thing's for sure, Todd Wade can't stay healthy, and when he is he hasn't shown me anything to lead me to believe he's the answer. The guy just isn't better than Jansen, in my opinion. I also think Wade lacks that something "toughness and grit" that Jansen possess.

Stephon Heyer? He should be on this team next year for sure. But again, I'm not sold he's ready to hold it down for sixteen games. If anything these last three games will be an auditioning of sorts for him going into next year.

But if I were a betting man, I would say look forward to seeing good old #76 next year.

scowan · 12-13-2007, 03:02 PM

Poor Jansen has had some freaky injuries. All offensive linemen have that posibility of having another guy roll into their legs which makes luck such a big part of injuries to O-line and D-line. I think Jansen is still a great RT, he has just has some really bad luck.
I hope he comes back as the starter, but this year is proof that we need some serious quality behind those guys. O-line play is HUGE!!!! in determining the team's sucess.

skins009 · 12-13-2007, 03:07 PM

Hayer and Wade are both better than Jansen. He was a solid player 4 years ago but he was really declined these last couple of years. I was watching him very closely this preseason and he couldn't block anybody. Gibbs covered him up by always keeping the tight end in. But we all know you can't have a good offense when you keep everyone in to block and don't send any people out in routes. We need to draft a RT and a guard.

firstdown · 12-13-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

Hayer and Wade are both better than Jansen. He was a solid player 4 years ago but he was really declined these last couple of years. I was watching him very closely this preseason and he couldn't block anybody. Gibbs covered him up by always keeping the tight end in. But we all know you can't have a good offense when you keep everyone in to block and don't send any people out in routes. We need to draft a RT and a guard.

I think your watching the wrong person he wears #76.

SouperMeister · 12-13-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

Hayer and Wade are both better than Jansen. He was a solid player 4 years ago but he was really declined these last couple of years. I was watching him very closely this preseason and he couldn't block anybody. Gibbs covered him up by always keeping the tight end in. But we all know you can't have a good offense when you keep everyone in to block and don't send any people out in routes. We need to draft a RT and a guard.

Jansen had a great game against Julius Peppers toward the end of last season. That alone tells me that he has something left in the tank and should be starting next season.

Counter-Tre · 12-13-2007, 03:07 PM

I would not count on Jansen. Love the guy but let's be realistic. He's always hurt. I think it would be overly reactionary to go for yet another safety in the draft. We do need to replace Taylor but I rank D-line and O-line as being higher on our list of priorities. Just my two cents.

jsarno · 12-13-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

I would not count on Jansen. Love the guy but let's be realistic. He's always hurt. I think it would be overly reactionary to go for yet another safety in the draft. We do need to replace Taylor but I rank D-line and O-line as being higher on our list of priorities. Just my two cents.

We have some GLARING issues, but biggest of all is that we're the oldest team in the NFL. We're only getting older. This means we have a lot of holes to fill. If Jansen is healthy, he'll play, but we need a young back up plan.

TheMalcolmConnection · 12-13-2007, 03:29 PM

I honestly would like to go in another direction. I mean, I like him, Wade and Heyer holding it down, but we really need to draft some blue chip talent in the draft. I'm fine with developing Heyer since he's young and is improving, but we need someone who can step in and start right away.

MTK · 12-13-2007, 03:31 PM

If Jansen is healthy he's the starter no question.

T.O.Killa · 12-13-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If Jansen is healthy he's the starter no question.

Mark my words, if Heyer plays well he is our starter next year. Jansen will be our back up and Wade will be gone. The reason Wade will be gone is because, it would cost to much to cut Jansen. Jansen should have been cut this year, instead of that stupid contract that the Redskins gave him.

MTK · 12-14-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Mark my words, if Heyer plays well he is our starter next year. Jansen will be our back up and Wade will be gone. The reason Wade will be gone is because, it would cost to much to cut Jansen. Jansen should have been cut this year, instead of that stupid contract that the Redskins gave him.

LOL

No way Heyer beats out Jansen.

No way.

Schneed10 · 12-13-2007, 03:36 PM

I don't understand why this is even an argument? Jon Jansen is clearly a strong starter in this league, I don't think a broken ankle changes that.

12thMan · 12-13-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't understand why this is even an argument? Jon Jansen is clearly a strong starter in this league, I don't think a broken ankle changes that.

I think the big question or rather concern with his ankle is whether there's any ligament damage. I haven't heard one way or another.

But I would think even if we acquired another tackle to compete with Jansen, he'd better come with game because Jansen is going to be fired up next season.

Bill B · 12-13-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't understand why this is even an argument? Jon Jansen is clearly a strong starter in this league, I don't think a broken ankle changes that.

Schneed - also I would think Salary cap constraints also force the issue. The Skins can't just cut everyone (and I would think Llyod and Philip Daniels are both gone among others) so just from a cap management perspective cutting Jansen is not really an option - correct?

Schneed10 · 12-13-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill B

Schneed - also I would think Salary cap constraints also force the issue. The Skins can't just cut everyone (and I would think Llyod and Philip Daniels are both gone among others) so just from a cap management perspective cutting Jansen is not really an option - correct?

Correct. Cutting him would hit us with $2 million more on our cap than if we kept him around.

I think if anything though, people are arguing that maybe he should be a backup and we should get a younger stud in there. I like him as a starter, personally. The team has much bigger problems than Jon Jansen.

If anyone's thinking cut the guy, it makes no sense from a cap standpoint.

12-13-2007, 02:55 PM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Jon Jansen: Starter Next Year? I think this is a valid argument. Some would like to see the Redskins move in another direction and draft or possibly acquire another starting tackle, but I think Jon Jansen still has a future with this team. Perhaps as a starter, and baring a set back with his recovery I think you can expect to see him in training camp again next year. One thing's for sure, Todd Wade can't stay healthy, and when he is he hasn't shown me anything to lead me to believe he's the answer. The guy just isn't better than Jansen, in my opinion. I also think Wade lacks that something "toughness and grit" that Jansen possess. Stephon Heyer? He should be on this team next year for sure. But again, I'm not sold he's ready to hold it down for sixteen games. If anything these last three games will be an auditioning of sorts for him going into next year. But if I were a betting man, I would say look forward to seeing good old #76 next year.

12-13-2007, 03:02 PM	#2
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 56 Posts: 1,559	Re: Jon Jansen: Starter Next Year? Poor Jansen has had some freaky injuries. All offensive linemen have that posibility of having another guy roll into their legs which makes luck such a big part of injuries to O-line and D-line. I think Jansen is still a great RT, he has just has some really bad luck. I hope he comes back as the starter, but this year is proof that we need some serious quality behind those guys. O-line play is HUGE!!!! in determining the team's sucess.

12-13-2007, 03:07 PM	#3
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Re: Jon Jansen: Starter Next Year? Hayer and Wade are both better than Jansen. He was a solid player 4 years ago but he was really declined these last couple of years. I was watching him very closely this preseason and he couldn't block anybody. Gibbs covered him up by always keeping the tight end in. But we all know you can't have a good offense when you keep everyone in to block and don't send any people out in routes. We need to draft a RT and a guard.

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Counter-Tre Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Venice Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 345	Re: Jon Jansen: Starter Next Year? I would not count on Jansen. Love the guy but let's be realistic. He's always hurt. I think it would be overly reactionary to go for yet another safety in the draft. We do need to replace Taylor but I rank D-line and O-line as being higher on our list of priorities. Just my two cents.

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