Now That Monk Is In...

[SmootSmack]

What former Redskin should we be clamoring for to get in the Hall of Fame now?

Bobby Beathard? Gary Clark? Russ Grimm? Chris Hanburger? Someone else?

I'll post a poll in a couple of days once the Spags and Fassel poll has gotten some "airtime" on our home page. But for now, just share your thoughts here

[MTK]

Personally I would get behind Grimm now. The Hogs were one of the most famous and successful offensive lines in NFL history, it's about time they started getting their due credit.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally I would get behind Grimm now. The Hogs were one of the most famous and successful offensive lines in NFL history, it's about time they started getting their due credit.

Agreed..

[celts32]

In addition to your list I think Jacoby was a HOF player.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What former Redskin should we be clamoring for to get in the Hall of Fame now?

Bobby Beathard? Gary Clark? Russ Grimm? Chris Hanburger? Someone else?

I'll post a poll in a couple of days once the Spags and Fassel poll has gotten some "airtime" on our home page. But for now, just share your thoughts here

I don't think Gary Clark is a HOF wr. He's on the cusp but he's just not quite there. But it's close. Same with Grimm. Hanburger is a no. Beathard is an interesting chioce but how many GM's make it? Isn't it more for players and coaches? So I would say a no for him too. Plus he drafted Ryan Leaf so that's going to do him in. Joe Jacoby might be an interesting name. He started on 3 winning SB teams. He went from LT to LG w/out missing a beat. But the two Redskins who deserved it most got in.

[JoeRedskin]

I don't think Jacoby will ever get in and, for that, I think we can blame LT - the highlight films of him dominating old Jake in one on one's will doom him. To be a HOF'er you have to beat the HOF'ers.

I think Grimm should get in for the Hogs and think that he has kept his presence up just enough to get him in. He would be my next choice followed by Hanburger (who has a snowball chance in hell of making it).

I think Beathard should make it to for all of his accomplishments - but Leaf may doom him.

[Monkeydad]

Charles Mann?

Dexter Manley?

Joe Theismann?

Larry Brown?

Brig Owens?

Dave Butz?

Mark Moseley?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Charles Mann?

Dexter Manley?

Joe Theismann?

Larry Brown?

Brig Owens?

Dave Butz?

Mark Moseley?

Theismann???

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Theismann???

Super Bowl XVIII cost Joey T the HOF. That was an incredible team and that would have given him back to back titles. QB's can get in for winning even if they don't have typical HOF numbers...see Troy Aikman. I firmly believe he would have been a 1st ballot HOF if he had won that one game. No single player lost as much in that game.

[Beemnseven]

The hatred for Theismann is unparalleled so there's no way he gets consideration for the Hall.

I'm all for Gary Clark -- it was Peter King who said for years that the reason he wouldn't vote Art Monk in was because whenever the Giants played the Skins, the guy they were all worried about was Clark. I don't have time to look up his stats, but aren't they near Swann and Stallworth?

One or more of the Hogs have to get in. Grimm should be in soon, but it may be a bit longer for Jacoby. For some reason, there doesn't seem to be much of a push for Lachey, but there are others who made less of an impact than he did who are in, so why not?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by celts32

Super Bowl XVIII cost Joey T the HOF. That was an incredible team and that would have given him back to back titles. QB's can get in for winning even if they don't have typical HOF numbers...see Troy Aikman. I firmly believe he would have been a 1st ballot HOF if he had won that one game. No single player lost as much in that game.

Well you bring up a good point about the two in a row. But I just don't think Theismann played at a real high level for a long enough period of time. He had a three year run from 82-84 where he played very well. 83 he won the MVP and that was his best year. Otherwise you're looking at an average NFL QB. His starting seasons from 77-81 were just plain old average to below average. And his 85 season was just plain old bad. I remember him being booed at RFK pretty bad in 85. HOF QB's in or around his era were Montana, Marinio, Moon and Fouts. All those guys IMO were better than Theismann. I might take Phil Simms over Theismann.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well you bring up a good point about the two in a row. But I just don't think Theismann played at a real high level for a long enough period of time. He had a three year run from 82-84 where he played very well. 83 he won the MVP and that was his best year. Otherwise you're looking at an average NFL QB. His starting seasons from 77-81 were just plain old average to below average. And his 85 season was just plain old bad. I remember him being booed at RFK pretty bad in 85. HOF QB's in or around his era were Montana, Marinio, Moon and Fouts. All those guys IMO were better than Theismann. I might take Phil Simms over Theismann.

He did have some average seasons but if you can put yourself back in that moment in 1983 he was considered the best QB in football at that time and that was the most prolific offfense ever. The HOF voteres are very into winning and where you rank among your peers individually and Joe T was at the top of the league for those years. As for Simms I believe he would be in also if he had won that 1990 SB instead of Hostetler.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by celts32

Super Bowl XVIII cost Joey T the HOF. That was an incredible team and that would have given him back to back titles. QB's can get in for winning even if they don't have typical HOF numbers...see Troy Aikman. I firmly believe he would have been a 1st ballot HOF if he had won that one game. No single player lost as much in that game.

Agreed. Had we won, Joe T. most likely would be in the HOF.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by celts32

No single player lost as much in that game.

And his wife! All this over a piece of tail (Cathy Lee Crosby)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

And his wife! All this over a piece of tail (Cathy Lee Crosby)

I remember after all that crap went down at the SB Joe's wife went on the cover of Washingtonian Magazine. I believe her name is Shari. Very nice looking blonde. She just aired all their dirty laundry right in the magazine. It must have been very embarassing for Joe. Anyone remember that?? But I'll say this about Joe T. He can pull some nice ass. His current wife looks real nice. And his daughter looks good too.