Early Cut list, or Please Get Off My Team

[That Guy]

now, these are subject to change and we should give these guys a full preseason, but right now some guys just don't look like they're worth having around.

Broughton - mason is better at RB, and we can throw a TE at FB if needed (or just call the guy up since he'll probably be free) - two years now and nothing special.
Westbrook - very unimpressive... i mean torrence proved he definitely isn't a stater (again) last night, but westbrook didn't even look like depth.
devine - he won't make the team, colt's a good #3.
cedrick holt (CB) - just looked bad.
anthony mix/maurice mann - showed nothing, looked bad. mcmullen pretty much beat all comers on big WR depth guy.

btw, justin hamilton looked decent last night - good enough to stick around a couple more games at least. tryon looked a little better than the HoF game...

guys that weren't big names to begin with that haven't done anything to change that:
DE Huntley, Kevin
DT Oshinowo, Babatunde
DT Askew, Matthias
RB Shelton, Eric
DB Ghee, Patrick
TE Goode, Jason
WR Gant, Horace
WR Toler, Burl

I don't know what's happening with the LB/OL backups, and at punter, one's getting dumped (probably frost)... we'll cut 3-4 OL guys (probably 3 due to the age of the starters) and we'll dump 2-3 LBs, but my guess is we'll also sign some veteran cuts there since that depth is terrible right now.

so that's 17 for sure cuts (including 1 unnamed punter and 3 unnamed OL backups) which gets you down to 63 pretty fast.

[That Guy]

as for the last 10
1 unnamed LB (PS)
CB tryon (PS)
CB richardson (PS)
DT boschetti
1 unnamed DE (wilson to PS? james to IR? jackson to PS?)
S hamilton (PS)

the last 4 are hard... you have 5 S, 10 OL, 8 LB, 4 RB, and 6 WR, which are all 1 more than necessary, but include some teamers (fox/thrash/etc)...

this was a lot easier last year...

[Beemnseven]

Derek Devine sealed his fate by missing the wide open Broughton in the endzone on 4th down. I bet he didn't sleep a wink last night.

Leigh Torrence continues to get beat, as does Tryon, and a lot of passes seem to connect around Byron Westbrook. Nobody's really standing out among these three. If you had to pick a leader here, I guess it's Tryon. I guess.

Matt Sinclair (LB, #58) seems to be a part of a lot of tackles. He might squeeze through.

By my count, McMullen is leading Mix right now.

[tatrave]

# 20 Ty Tryon Dude just looks lost all the time an d consistantly gets beat

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Leigh Torrence continues to get beat, as does Tryon, and a lot of passes seem to connect around Byron Westbrook. Nobody's really standing out among these three. If you had to pick a leader here, I guess it's Tryon. I guess.
By my count, McMullen is leading Mix right now.

What games are you watching?
Tryon was the worst player game one and was pretty lame game 2.
Torrence was great game 1 and solid game 2...the TD was solid coverage.

Torrence not only makes the team, he is a lock.
I do agree that Mix has done nothing and McMullen had 1 solid game.

Tryon is definately in danger of being cut...practice squad sounds logical as no one would pick him up unless he shows significant improvement

[FRPLG]

I think McMullen looks way ahead of others at WR right now. Granted he is getting open against scrubs but at least he is getting open.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think McMullen looks way ahead of others at WR right now. Granted he is getting open against scrubs but at least he is getting open.

With the experience he has in the NFL and with the WCO he should be ahead of others right now. The question in my mind really is the best you'll get out of McMullen and do you want someone who has essentially plateaued or take a chance that someone like Mix has the upside to surpass where McMullen is now, sooner rather than later.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

With the experience he has in the NFL and with the WCO he should be ahead of others right now. The question in my mind really is the best you'll get out of McMullen and do you want someone who has essentially plateaued or take a chance that someone like Mix has the upside to surpass where McMullen is now, sooner rather than later.

Good point, but I think McMullen didn't apply himself before because he thought he was great and didn't need to put in the extra work to raise his game to NFL standards. For what it's worth, I think he has a lot of improvements he could still make and for the first time realizes how much work an NFL player must put in. Don't forget, the Giants thought Mix had maxed.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Good point, but I think McMullen didn't apply himself before because he thought he was great and didn't need to put in the extra work to raise his game to NFL standards. For what it's worth, I think he has a lot of improvements he could still make and for the first time realizes how much work an NFL player must put in. Don't forget, the Giants thought Mix had maxed.

In listening to Joey Sunshine and Mike Patrick last night (BIG grain of salt), they seem to think McMullen has realized this may be his last real shot in the NFL, and he's seriously stepped up every aspect of his game. I hope he's right. He's definitely more talented than Mix, he's just never lived up to his potential or draft status.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

With the experience he has in the NFL and with the WCO he should be ahead of others right now. The question in my mind really is the best you'll get out of McMullen and do you want someone who has essentially plateaued or take a chance that someone like Mix has the upside to surpass where McMullen is now, sooner rather than later.

As good a McMullen was in college you have to think that if he ever gets into a good situation with his head on straight he'll be a productive #3 type guy. He seems better mentally now and his position right is hard to beat. Also he is just one of those guys that feels alike a "gut". In other words he just seems like he is going to be a valuable piece for us while the other guys feel like just that "other guys".

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

With the experience he has in the NFL and with the WCO he should be ahead of others right now. The question in my mind really is the best you'll get out of McMullen and do you want someone who has essentially plateaued or take a chance that someone like Mix has the upside to surpass where McMullen is now, sooner rather than later.

Right, Mix might still have the edge over McMullen based on his age and perceived potential. Should be a good battle to keep an eye on.

[T.O.Killa]

I think everyone is forgetting that Geisinger, Justin is our only back up center. I was hoping that Crummey would be this guy, but it does not look like he is even getting a chance to play center. I think that who ever is the second string center is a lock to make the team. I think right now, that makes Geisinger a lock.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I think everyone is forgetting that Geisinger, Justin is our only back up center. I was hoping that Crummey would be this guy, but it does not look like he is even getting a chance to play center. I think that who ever is the second string center is a lock to make the team. I think right now, that makes Geisinger a lock.

Isn't Rinehart able to play center as well?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Right, Mix might still have the edge over McMullen based on his age and perceived potential. Should be a good battle to keep an eye on.

I would have to disagree -- there's potential, and then there's results. So far, Billy McMullen has produced results in the form of getting open and catching passes, while Anthony Mix has produced exactly nothing.

Someone will have to show me where Mix is such a great special teamer, because I haven't seen it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I would have to disagree -- there's potential, and then there's results. So far, Billy McMullen has produced results in the form of getting open and catching passes, while Anthony Mix has produced exactly nothing.

Someone will have to show me where Mix is such a great special teamer, because I haven't seen it.

I agree, I'm just throwing out a possible reason that Mix could still make the cut.

As for his play on special teams check the Bears game from last year.