JC is not what I thought.

wilsowilso · 09-04-2008, 10:41 PM

Hey I love this team, but that was pitiful. That guy is ???????. Just my opinion, but that JC kid was pathetic with that QB play. The Giants knew it from the start.

WaldSkins · 09-04-2008, 10:42 PM

Man although i agree, you are really asking for it with this thread

DynamiteRave · 09-04-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Man although i agree, you are really asking for it with this thread

Schneed will be around with his "Retarded Thread" very soon.

While I agree JC was pretty pathetic, I'm not ready to give up on him. It's a new offense, first week. Give him some more time.

WaldSkins · 09-04-2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Schneed will be around with his "Retarded Thread" very soon.

While I agree JC was pretty pathetic, I'm not ready to give up on him. It's a new offense, first week. Give him some more time.

I think if JC gets a new offense every year, then he will never get critized because its always his "first year in the system". Im pretty sure in the west coast or spread or gibbs or Al Saunders offensive system that if the first down is 7 yards away, you throw for 7 yards. Not 4 yards.

Ah lets give him some more time.

wilsowilso · 09-04-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Man although i agree, you are really asking for it with this thread

That wasn't a joke. I'm not asking for jack. I'm asking for a QB that isn't a bitch.

hesscl34 · 09-04-2008, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

That wasn't a joke. I'm not asking for jack. I'm asking for a QB that isn't a bitch.

hmmm.. now that's what I call an insult!

Beemnseven · 09-04-2008, 10:53 PM

Here's the question you have to ask:

Are Campbell's problems related to learning a new offense, or is he regressing in key facets of game play that would show up in any offensive scheme? According to the sideline reporter from NBC tonight (can't think of her name), Zorn said Campbell "has to read the defense." This is Campbell's fourth season in the league and Zorn has to remind him to do that?

It doesn't help that the same group of offensive linemen from last season apparently have all forgotten how to pass block.

over the mountain · 09-05-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Here's the question you have to ask:

Are Campbell's problems related to learning a new offense, or is he regressing in key facets of game play that would show up in any offensive scheme? According to the sideline reporter from NBC tonight (can't think of her name), Zorn said Campbell "has to read the defense." This is Campbell's fourth season in the league and Zorn has to remind him to do that?

It doesn't help that the same group of offensive linemen from last season apparently have all forgotten how to pass block.

Thats what really has me scratching my head. Since his first year he still doesnt know how to read a defense, not stare down his primary receiver, still cant check down to any other receiver and generally doesnt make quick decisions getting guys the ball in stride the second they are open. Its alot to ask but a quality starting NFL quarterback needs to have this down pat.

Now throw in the WCO where a qb needs to read a D and make quick decisions and we are forcing a round peg into a square hole. I still want JC to excel and he has this year and next to step it up when his contract runs out.

go skins!!!

Paintrain · 09-05-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Thats what really has me scratching my head. Since his first year he still doesnt know how to read a defense, not stare down his primary receiver, still cant check down to any other receiver and generally doesnt make quick decisions getting guys the ball in stride the second they are open. Its alot to ask but a quality starting NFL quarterback needs to have this down pat.

Now throw in the WCO where a qb needs to read a D and make quick decisions and we are forcing a round peg into a square hole. I still want JC to excel and he has this year and next to step it up when his contract runs out.

go skins!!!

I don't want to come across as a JC apologist, but a big part of those things (reading defense, not staring down receivers, checking down, making quick decisions) have to do with comfort in the offense. As last season progressed, we saw less and less of that as he grew comfortable in Saunders system. He TRUSTED that people would be where they were supposed to be so he didn't have to stare them down. You don't hear the criticisms from knowledgeable football analysts (Jaws, Aikman) saying Campbell doesn't read defenses well, that's a fan thing. They've all said he needs to be more comfortable and process things faster, AS DO ALL YOUNG QB. He's made fewer than 25 starts, look at his progression vs. others at a similar stage and the sky isn't falling as quickly as you think.

Redskin · 09-21-2008, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Here's the question you have to ask:

Are Campbell's problems related to learning a new offense, or is he regressing in key facets of game play that would show up in any offensive scheme? According to the sideline reporter from NBC tonight (can't think of her name), Zorn said Campbell "has to read the defense." This is Campbell's fourth season in the league and Zorn has to remind him to do that?

It doesn't help that the same group of offensive linemen from last season apparently have all forgotten how to pass block.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Hey I love this team, but that was pitiful. That guy is ???????. Just my opinion, but that JC kid was pathetic with that QB play. The Giants knew it from the start.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesscl34

QBs are leaders. They lead the team.. he doesn't do that, period. He's a wimp that has no confidence. UGH!!! ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

You're right: Jason Campbell is regressing. We have a major problem at QB. He looked lost out there and held the ball way too long.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauiRedskinbarn

Put in collins, He spanked the giants 8 months ago, he won 4 in a row, he's still got momentum. He should be this teams captain, he can guide this team better than JC. Having him in is the best chance we have.

Just like in Arizona, sit the sucker, start the veteran

..............................

MTK · 09-21-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskin

..............................

Just goes to show why you don't bench a guy after one freaking game.

Thank god the fans don't make personnel decisions.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 09-04-2008, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

That wasn't a joke. I'm not asking for jack. I'm asking for a QB that isn't a bitch.

I haven't even watched the game yet(DVR'd), but isn't Week 1 just a bit early to be calling our starting QB a bitch. Have you ever lined up under center at any level....I doubt it.

htownskinfan · 09-04-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Man although i agree, you are really asking for it with this thread

yeah he is,but I think any thread started right now criticizing anybody is asking for trouble,your labeled a traitor even if you have valid points,and especially dont pick the skins to lose or you might get a pm saying what a sorry mfker you are

MiraclesHappen07 · 09-04-2008, 10:42 PM

i agree with you, he continues to hestiate on his throws. for someone who says he has trust in his receviers he sure is not showing it

Redskin Warrior · 09-04-2008, 10:43 PM

........no turnovers, 1 sack against a great d-line, no help from the receivers I don't get how he was pathetic?

09-04-2008, 10:41 PM	#1
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	JC is not what I thought. Hey I love this team, but that was pitiful. That guy is ???????. Just my opinion, but that JC kid was pathetic with that QB play. The Giants knew it from the start.

09-04-2008, 10:42 PM	#2
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 42 Posts: 2,726	Re: JC is not what I thought. Man although i agree, you are really asking for it with this thread __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

09-04-2008, 10:53 PM	#7
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: JC is not what I thought. Here's the question you have to ask: Are Campbell's problems related to learning a new offense, or is he regressing in key facets of game play that would show up in any offensive scheme? According to the sideline reporter from NBC tonight (can't think of her name), Zorn said Campbell "has to read the defense." This is Campbell's fourth season in the league and Zorn has to remind him to do that? It doesn't help that the same group of offensive linemen from last season apparently have all forgotten how to pass block.

09-04-2008, 10:42 PM	#14
MiraclesHappen07 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richlands, Va Posts: 318	Re: JC is not what I thought. i agree with you, he continues to hestiate on his throws. for someone who says he has trust in his receviers he sure is not showing it __________________ Resistance is futile, The Burgundy and Gold are coming!!! "Football can like a box of chocolates, nevers know what your gona get any given sunday"-From zach williams, revised verison from Forest Gump

JC is not what I thought.

Locker Room Main Forum