Clinton Portis on the JT Show

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Did anyone listen to Clinton Portis on the John Thompson show earlier today? He didn't come right out and explicitly blast Zorn, but it was pretty obvious that Portis and Zorn have some serious issues to work out. Portis took issue with being benched, seemed to take a shot at Zorn when he said in sarcastic tone that "the head coach is a genius," and said that everyone needs to look at themselves to see what they are doing wrong (and, in the context of the interview, he seemed to imply that the coaches need to look at what they are doing wrong). Sorry, I wasn't taking notes and so I can't give you a blow-by-blow account of the interview. In any case, based on Portis' tone, it sounds like Zorn may be losing control of the locker room.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Zorn has been making some dumb decisions and play calls also. He doens't use the personnel we have wisely too. Why did they log a go route to ARE during the game..Wouldn't that been a better play for Kelly or Devin..Why aren't we using Davis. Why was Portis benched? Why don't we atleast try to go down the field more..Questions..Zorn called plays good when he mixed in the run..But then I think he got obssessed with passing the ball to set up the run instead of vice versa..I am very disappointed..

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Zorn has been making some dumb decisions and play calls also. He doens't use the personnel we have wisely too. Why did they log a go route to ARE during the game..Wouldn't that been a better play for Kelly or Devin..Why aren't we using Davis. Why was Portis benched? Why don't we atleast try to go down the field more..Questions..Zorn called plays good when he mixed in the run..But then I think he got obssessed with passing the ball to set up the run instead of vice versa..I am very disappointed..

Well remember the on our first drive JC went back for a long pass and someone hit his arm causing the ball to fly up in the air and get int. Thats why we don't go down field.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Zorn has been making some dumb decisions and play calls also. He doens't use the personnel we have wisely too. Why did they log a go route to ARE during the game..Wouldn't that been a better play for Kelly or Devin..Why aren't we using Davis. Why was Portis benched? Why don't we atleast try to go down the field more..Questions..Zorn called plays good when he mixed in the run..But then I think he got obssessed with passing the ball to set up the run instead of vice versa..I am very disappointed..

i dont agree with much from your post, sorry. i was on WP this morning and everything was normal, come back tonight and were bashin zorn. that damn examiner . .

[redsk1]

I posed the question after this past Sunday. There was no confidence offensively. Guys seemed like they'd rather be elsewhere. CP standing there in the fourth quarter. Bad playcalling. Little to no adjustments whatsoever.

All of this adds up to lack of faith and/or lack of leadership. Just a guess but maybe not too far off base.

[47FAN]

things dont sound good and one caller just asked if maybe vc and danny boy were hoping to get cower after the season and maybe zorn was just to get by for a year and put zorn back at oc

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 47FAN

things dont sound good and one caller just asked if maybe vc and danny boy were hoping to get cower after the season and maybe zorn was just to get by for a year and put zorn back at oc

First off the only way Zorn would go back to OC is if this was arranged last year when he became head coach. Secong I heard some on interviewed (forgot who they were) and they said Cowher is happy retired and has ruled out any chances of him coming back in 2009. The person said there was just a slight chance he would give it any thought in 2010. He said Cowher does not care about the money and is happy having alot of more time to spend with his family. He also pointed out Cowher is still young and can afford to wait until he is ready to coach again.

Even if that did go down the O has been Zorns problem so why would he stay on as O coach?

[samtskins]

Hmmm. Clinton please don't start.

[redsk1]

Portis Rips Zorn - Redskins Insider

Uh oh, hear it comes.

RI: Portis Rips Zorn

[Miller101]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Portis Rips Zorn - Redskins Insider

Uh oh, hear it comes.

RI: Portis Rips Zorn

This sucks! Sounds like Zorn has lost portis! Also sounds like Portis just freaking hates Zorn!

Sounds like, based on Portis' words, and based on Zorn's protection schemes, and based on Zorn's decision to keep only two back up lineman on the bench, and based that Zorn can't accept any blame, and based on Zorn's words of "get the ball out quicker!"........................................I t sounds like Zorn doesn't know what the heck he's doing! I hope he learns quick. This season is a wash, but if Zorn doesn't fix this quickly; next year will be a wash too!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Did anyone listen to Clinton Portis on the John Thompson show earlier today? He didn't come right out and explicitly blast Zorn, but it was pretty obvious that Portis and Zorn have some serious issues to work out. Portis took issue with being benched, seemed to take a shot at Zorn when he said in sarcastic tone that "the head coach is a genius," and said that everyone needs to look at themselves to see what they are doing wrong (and, in the context of the interview, he seemed to imply that the coaches need to look at what they are doing wrong). Sorry, I wasn't taking notes and so I can't give you a blow-by-blow account of the interview. In any case, based on Portis' tone, it sounds like Zorn may be losing control of the locker room.

Yeah, I can tell you for a fact that the locker room is a bit of a mess right now. But look, this is the first real adversity Zorn has ever had to deal with as an NFL head coach. It would have been ridiculous to think he would never have to face this-a bad losing streak while massaging massive egos-but if we want to be truly committed to him and to buidling success for the long term than he needs to prove he can get through it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, I can tell you for a fact that the locker room is a bit of a mess right now. But look, this is the first real adversity Zorn has ever had to deal with as an NFL head coach. It would have been ridiculous to think he would never have to face this-a bad losing streak while massaging massive egos-but if we want to be truly committed to him and to buidling success for the long term than he needs to prove he can get through it.

Can you go into this a little more?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can you go into this a little more?

Just people I've talked to have said that Zorn is treating veterans and rookies equally and that just doesn't work in the NFL. Veterans expect a different level of respect. Further, almost all the players don't like that he's been calling out the players on execution and seemingly taking no blame for the schemes. Additionally, some players say that Campbell has been blaming others in the locker room for his struggles. It's a bit of a mess right now mainly stemming from losing and the frustrations that go along with that.

Having a tight, cohesive locker room is one of (some would say the only one) Gibbs' traits that is sorely missed right now. But I think it's a passing thing that will improve.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

. Further, almost all the players don't like that he's been calling out the players on execution and seemingly taking no blame for the schemes.

Ive noticed that tone from the start in his press conferences. I was concerned about it at first but it kind of slipped to the back burner in my mind. I always kind of took him like he was enjoying the celebrity a bit too much but kept my mouth shut because everyone seemed not to mind... but he does call out players a lot.

[GMScud]

Who would have guessed when we sat at 6-2 that come the 2nd week of December we'd be discussing Zorn's job security, missing the playoffs, coaches calling out players, players calling out coaches, people suggesting Colt unseat JC as starter....

Unreal. Nothing is EVER easy as a Redskins fan.