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Old 12-09-2008, 04:03 PM   #1
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Did anyone listen to Clinton Portis on the John Thompson show earlier today? He didn't come right out and explicitly blast Zorn, but it was pretty obvious that Portis and Zorn have some serious issues to work out. Portis took issue with being benched, seemed to take a shot at Zorn when he said in sarcastic tone that "the head coach is a genius," and said that everyone needs to look at themselves to see what they are doing wrong (and, in the context of the interview, he seemed to imply that the coaches need to look at what they are doing wrong). Sorry, I wasn't taking notes and so I can't give you a blow-by-blow account of the interview. In any case, based on Portis' tone, it sounds like Zorn may be losing control of the locker room.
Yeah, I can tell you for a fact that the locker room is a bit of a mess right now. But look, this is the first real adversity Zorn has ever had to deal with as an NFL head coach. It would have been ridiculous to think he would never have to face this-a bad losing streak while massaging massive egos-but if we want to be truly committed to him and to buidling success for the long term than he needs to prove he can get through it.
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:06 PM   #2
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Yeah, I can tell you for a fact that the locker room is a bit of a mess right now. But look, this is the first real adversity Zorn has ever had to deal with as an NFL head coach. It would have been ridiculous to think he would never have to face this-a bad losing streak while massaging massive egos-but if we want to be truly committed to him and to buidling success for the long term than he needs to prove he can get through it.
Can you go into this a little more?
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:13 PM   #3
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Can you go into this a little more?
Just people I've talked to have said that Zorn is treating veterans and rookies equally and that just doesn't work in the NFL. Veterans expect a different level of respect. Further, almost all the players don't like that he's been calling out the players on execution and seemingly taking no blame for the schemes. Additionally, some players say that Campbell has been blaming others in the locker room for his struggles. It's a bit of a mess right now mainly stemming from losing and the frustrations that go along with that.

Having a tight, cohesive locker room is one of (some would say the only one) Gibbs' traits that is sorely missed right now. But I think it's a passing thing that will improve.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:35 PM   #4
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. Further, almost all the players don't like that he's been calling out the players on execution and seemingly taking no blame for the schemes.
Ive noticed that tone from the start in his press conferences. I was concerned about it at first but it kind of slipped to the back burner in my mind. I always kind of took him like he was enjoying the celebrity a bit too much but kept my mouth shut because everyone seemed not to mind... but he does call out players a lot.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:41 PM   #5
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Re: Clinton Portis on the JT Show

Who would have guessed when we sat at 6-2 that come the 2nd week of December we'd be discussing Zorn's job security, missing the playoffs, coaches calling out players, players calling out coaches, people suggesting Colt unseat JC as starter....

Unreal. Nothing is EVER easy as a Redskins fan.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:12 AM   #6
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Who would have guessed when we sat at 6-2 that come the 2nd week of December we'd be discussing Zorn's job security, missing the playoffs, coaches calling out players, players calling out coaches, people suggesting Colt unseat JC as starter....

Unreal. Nothing is EVER easy as a Redskins fan.
and thats for damn sure..it,s tough being a redskins fan that for sure so much adversity at the worst of times to have it ...down the stretch run...
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Just people I've talked to have said that Zorn is treating veterans and rookies equally and that just doesn't work in the NFL. Veterans expect a different level of respect. Further, almost all the players don't like that he's been calling out the players on execution and seemingly taking no blame for the schemes. Additionally, some players say that Campbell has been blaming others in the locker room for his struggles. It's a bit of a mess right now mainly stemming from losing and the frustrations that go along with that.

Having a tight, cohesive locker room is one of (some would say the only one) Gibbs' traits that is sorely missed right now. But I think it's a passing thing that will improve.
Been saying this for months...
Re: Don't you think we are overreacting just a bit??

Back then people thought I was nuts.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:27 PM   #8
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Been saying this for months...
Re: Don't you think we are overreacting just a bit??

Back then people thought I was nuts.
Congrats to you sir, you picked up on something I didn't.
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Yeah, I can tell you for a fact that the locker room is a bit of a mess right now. But look, this is the first real adversity Zorn has ever had to deal with as an NFL head coach. It would have been ridiculous to think he would never have to face this-a bad losing streak while massaging massive egos-but if we want to be truly committed to him and to buidling success for the long term than he needs to prove he can get through it.
This would've never happened if Gibbs was still around. Boy, I start missing Gibbs v.2.0 more and more every Sunday.
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This would've never happened if Gibbs was still around. Boy, I start missing Gibbs v.2.0 more and more every Sunday.
whatever man

no matter how good of a coach, you may see it int he media as being lovey dovey

but there WILL BE malcontent
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:31 PM   #11
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Yeah, I can tell you for a fact that the locker room is a bit of a mess right now. But look, this is the first real adversity Zorn has ever had to deal with as an NFL head coach. It would have been ridiculous to think he would never have to face this-a bad losing streak while massaging massive egos-but if we want to be truly committed to him and to buidling success for the long term than he needs to prove he can get through it.
Perfectly said.
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