Cerrato Vaguely Explains Draft Strategy (with Questionable Evidence)

[maroonandblack30]

Cerrato Explains Why the Skins Don't Draft Linemen - D.C. Sports Bog

[JLW428]

I don't know if I would call him an idiot. Sure, I think Kelly wasn't a well thought out pick. But, are you saying he is an idiot because he doesn't know the stats for Campbell and Merling? Or because of the way the draft worked out for us?

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by JLW428

I don't know if I would call him an idiot. Sure, I think Kelly wasn't a well thought out pick. But, are you saying he is an idiot because he doesn't know the stats for Campbell and Merling? Or because of the way the draft worked out for us?

I'm saying he is an idiot because he says "we don't draft based on need"

Then justifies his stupidity with made up stats.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

I'm saying he is an idiot because he says "we don't draft based on need"

Then justifies his stupidity with made up stats.

Isn't it friggin awesome that Jason Taylor - $8M a year and a 2nd round pick - has comparable stats to the two DE's that Vinny tries to dog with his made up stats??

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Isn't it friggin awesome that Jason Taylor - $8M a year and a 2nd round pick - has comparable stats to the two DE's that Vinny tries to dog with his made up stats??

Exactly what I was thinking. Holy shit Cerrato is more incompetent than I previously thought - obviously he was thinking ahead of time about the draft possibilities skins fans discussed in Merling and Campbell and yet he doesn't even take the time to look up the f'ing stats before he tries to throw them under the bus. This guy is a walking travesty.

I agree w/ so many of you that Cerrato deserves the boot way more than Zorn... but we all know it won't happen.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by JLW428

I don't know if I would call him an idiot. Sure, I think Kelly wasn't a well thought out pick. But, are you saying he is an idiot because he doesn't know the stats for Campbell and Merling? Or because of the way the draft worked out for us?

He's an idiot because he says you have to draft by best player available and tries to prove his point by dumping on Campbell and Merling stats while the guys he drafted in the second round have added jack shit to this team.

[Otis Wonsley]

Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Otis Wonsley

Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.

Welcome!

and I agree completely!

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Otis Wonsley

Like I've said to many people before Vinny is someone who should be part of a scouting team under the supervision and direction of (a qualified) someone who is the personnel decision maker and not the actual decision maker. This job is beyond his capabilities.

I agree but that will have to be with a different franchise becasue now that he has been given all the power here you can't very well reduce him to a scout. The only way the Redskins truely build a foundation is to show Vinny the door. Sure we will have years with VC where we win 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, but to win year in and year out will never happen under his watch.

[Otis Wonsley]

Originally Posted by celts32

I agree but that will have to be with a different franchise becasue now that he has been given all the power here you can't very well reduce him to a scout. The only way the Redskins truely build a foundation is to show Vinny the door. Sure we will have years with VC where we win 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, but to win year in and year out will never happen under his watch.

I think that I would be fine with that. Maybe I am way off here but if all things point to this aspect being the problem, I wonder if Snyder at some point makes the change. Regardless of his loyalty to Vinny, I think he gets tired of this and goes in a different direction. I mean he has tried everything else under the sun.

[redsk1]

I'm not willing to call the last draft a bust. I think we need to give the guys a chance. There is some talent there w/ Davis, Thomas, Kelly, and Rhinehart (Horton of course).

So the jury is still out on last years draft. I do have issues w/ past years decision making on VC's part.

[skinsfan69]

What Vinny says here is really really stupid. First he says not to draft for need, then he says we have the west coast offense and it NEEDS big wr's. So isn't it funny how we draft two big wr's in the 2nd round? Sorry Vinny but we drafted for need. He is one dumb dude who would never have a job in the NFL if it wasn't for Snyder. You see when Marty fired him no came knocking on his door. But with that being said, I think he deserves two more years of running things by himself. Everyone wants to blame him for all of the past moves, but some of that falls on Gibbs.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What Vinny says here is really really stupid. First he says not to draft for need, then he says we have the west coast offense and it NEEDS big wr's. So isn't it funny how we draft two big wr's in the 2nd round? Sorry Vinny but we drafted for need. He is one dumb dude who would never have a job in the NFL if it wasn't for Snyder. You see when Marty fired him no came knocking on his door. But with that being said, I think he deserves two more years of running things by himself. Everyone wants to blame him for all of the past moves, but some of that falls on Gibbs.

Totally agree with that.... he was given full control the last 4 years.

[SC Skins Fan]

Depressing draft note #357. Harry Douglas, the wide receiver that Atlanta drafted with the 3rd round pick they got in the trade with the Redskins (picks 21 and 84 for picks 34 and 48), has more receptions and yards than all three of the Skins 2nd rounders combined.

I know at least one coach that should be looking for work in the off-season. Stan Hixon.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He (Vinny) is one dumb dude who would never have a job in the NFL if it wasn't for Snyder. You see when Marty fired him no came knocking on his door. But with that being said, I think he deserves two more years of running things by himself.

You say Vinnie is so stupid that nobody else in the NFL would hire him and then you conclude that he deserves two more years at the helm. Huh? I don't begin to understand your reasoning.

If he's too stupid to hold the position anywhere else, shouldn't your conclusion have been that he should be taken out of the job?