Positive remark on McNabb

Duffman003 · 06-09-2010, 12:40 PM

I was reading this article on ESPN about pressuring the quarterback and there was a quick remark about McNabb doing well against pressure.

"There are those rare quarterbacks, like Aaron Rodgers, Donovan McNabb and Ben Roethlisberger, who produce well when under that kind of pressure, but the average stats tell the value of the hurry."

Everyone has been talking about how poor the offensive line will be, but at least there are some remarks about how McNabb performs under pressure.

Elvis Dumervil, Tamba Hali need help on the hurry front - ESPN

SolidSnake84 · 06-09-2010, 01:02 PM

Well we will certainly know soon enough. It's been said before, but the truth is we are looking at another horrible O-line. I've seen nothing that says this line is much better than last year...

johno · 06-09-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Well we will certainly know soon enough. It's been said before, but the truth is we are looking at another horrible O-line. I've seen nothing that says this line is much better than last year...

imho both artis hicks and trent williams are upgrades.

Chico23231 · 06-09-2010, 01:16 PM

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imho both artis hicks and trent williams are upgrades.

I agree, but the depth at this time is still a major issue with the Oline. Williams is gonna be good and a great upgrade, Hicks is an upgrade, but not much IMO.

GTripp0012 · 06-09-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by johno

imho both artis hicks and trent williams are upgrades.

Hicks almost certainly won't be a better RT than Heyer. Williams, on the other hand, probably can do about as well as post-probowl/end of career Samuels in his first year.

skinsfan69 · 06-09-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hicks almost certainly won't be a better RT than Heyer. Williams, on the other hand, probably can do about as well as post-probowl/end of career Samuels in his first year.

How can you be so sure about Hicks? Heyer is terrible.

GTripp0012 · 06-09-2010, 05:34 PM

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How can you be so sure about Hicks? Heyer is terrible.

Hicks is a 31 year old failed right guard who still has a job because he's a system guy.

Heyer might not be adequate by most standards, but he's an NFL offensive tackle, at the very least. Guys like Mike Williams and Artis Hicks are just blocking others like Lichtensteigher/Rinehart/Fanaika/Edwin Williams/Heyer.

SolidSnake84 · 06-09-2010, 01:09 PM

I agree fully but do you think they will be immediate contributers? I figured they would learn for part of the season behind a veteran....

johno · 06-09-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I agree fully but do you think they will be immediate contributers? I figured they would learn for part of the season behind a veteran....

That's a fair question, but I do think that they contribute immediately. I think they both start the first game of the season. Would it be better for Williams to learn behind a veteran? Yeah. Do we have enough veterans that can hold down the fort at LT until Williams is ready? Nope. We all had to watch the nonsense offensive line that was out there last season.

Also, do I like asking questions and then immediately answering them? You betcha. lol

tryfuhl · 06-09-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I agree fully but do you think they will be immediate contributers? I figured they would learn for part of the season behind a veteran....

Hicks is quite the veteran.

Leader In Sports · 06-09-2010, 02:13 PM

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Hicks is quite the veteran.

Be it veterans or rookies, it takes time for the o-line to gel.

tryfuhl · 06-09-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Leader In Sports

Be it veterans or rookies, it takes time for the o-line to gel.

This is true, but I'm not sure what veteran on the squad that Hicks should be sitting behind to learn. Ability/athleticism is one thing but who currently on the line can teach him?

firstdown · 06-09-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I agree fully but do you think they will be immediate contributers? I figured they would learn for part of the season behind a veteran....

I don't think there is that much of a learning curve from college to pro when your talking O line and I expect Williams will start.

Leader In Sports · 06-09-2010, 01:19 PM

Recently I did an event with someone who has been with the Eagles for decades. We talked about the McNabb deal and we both agreed it was a win-win for both teams since McNabb is a massive upgrade from Campbell.

Where we disagreed was this person with the Eagles felt that McNabb has in the past, and would probably continue to always choke in the big games.

Monkeydad · 06-09-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Leader In Sports

Recently I did an event with someone who has been with the Eagles for decades. We talked about the McNabb deal and we both agreed it was a win-win for both teams since McNabb is a massive upgrade from Campbell.

Where we disagreed was this person with the Eagles felt that McNabb has in the past, and would probably continue to always choke in the big games.

We'll see if the choke artist was Reid or McNabb this year.

06-09-2010, 12:40 PM	#1
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 602	Positive remark on McNabb I was reading this article on ESPN about pressuring the quarterback and there was a quick remark about McNabb doing well against pressure. "There are those rare quarterbacks, like Aaron Rodgers, Donovan McNabb and Ben Roethlisberger, who produce well when under that kind of pressure, but the average stats tell the value of the hurry." Everyone has been talking about how poor the offensive line will be, but at least there are some remarks about how McNabb performs under pressure. Elvis Dumervil, Tamba Hali need help on the hurry front - ESPN __________________ give me food, feed me lunch 'you want water?', B#### give me punch - D12

06-09-2010, 01:02 PM	#2
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,953	Re: Positive remark on McNabb Well we will certainly know soon enough. It's been said before, but the truth is we are looking at another horrible O-line. I've seen nothing that says this line is much better than last year... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

06-09-2010, 01:09 PM	#8
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,953	Re: Positive remark on McNabb I agree fully but do you think they will be immediate contributers? I figured they would learn for part of the season behind a veteran.... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

06-09-2010, 01:19 PM	#14
Leader In Sports Special Teams Join Date: May 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 385	Re: Positive remark on McNabb Recently I did an event with someone who has been with the Eagles for decades. We talked about the McNabb deal and we both agreed it was a win-win for both teams since McNabb is a massive upgrade from Campbell. Where we disagreed was this person with the Eagles felt that McNabb has in the past, and would probably continue to always choke in the big games.

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