Positive remark on McNabb

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by johno

imho both artis hicks and trent williams are upgrades.

Hicks almost certainly won't be a better RT than Heyer. Williams, on the other hand, probably can do about as well as post-probowl/end of career Samuels in his first year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hicks almost certainly won't be a better RT than Heyer. Williams, on the other hand, probably can do about as well as post-probowl/end of career Samuels in his first year.

How can you be so sure about Hicks? Heyer is terrible.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How can you be so sure about Hicks? Heyer is terrible.

Hicks is a 31 year old failed right guard who still has a job because he's a system guy.

Heyer might not be adequate by most standards, but he's an NFL offensive tackle, at the very least. Guys like Mike Williams and Artis Hicks are just blocking others like Lichtensteigher/Rinehart/Fanaika/Edwin Williams/Heyer.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hicks almost certainly won't be a better RT than Heyer. Williams, on the other hand, probably can do about as well as post-probowl/end of career Samuels in his first year.

I can't tell if your saying that Samuels was good or bad then, i guessing you're saying good right?

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hicks is a 31 year old failed right guard who still has a job because he's a system guy.

Heyer might not be adequate by most standards, but he's an NFL offensive tackle, at the very least. Guys like Mike Williams and Artis Hicks are just blocking others like Lichtensteigher/Rinehart/Fanaika/Edwin Williams/Heyer.

I think describing Hicks as a failed RG is selling him short b/c Hicks can play all the OL positions except C. Over the past couple seasons he's played more OT then OG. I think its more accurate to describe him as a quality back-up swing OL.

I'm one of the few people in this forum that defends Heyer, mainly because he played most of last season with a major knee injury.
Prior to last Heyer was a quality OT.

But, if we're comparing Hicks to the injured Heyer from last year i think its safe to say that Hicks is an upgrade b/c Heyer was the 71st rated OT out of 77.

Then i think an underrated element in the upgrade along the OL is the coaching/teaching/scheme upgrade from Shanahan
+Bobby Turner/Forester.

I thought the offense looked much more capable when Bingo Lewis was calling then Zorn and that was with the same personnel, now we've upgraded the talent and the playbook.