How to Beat the G-Men

hooskins · 12-19-2005, 03:00 AM

Ok so this game was great, and its sweet to dominate Dallas, but next week is gonna be crucial. I can think of two things we need to do well to beat the NYG. First i think the most imp thing is establish a solid running game with Portis. I do not know the exact stats, but I think if he has a good game the Redskins tend to win. Good running will open up the pass, and hopefully we will continue to take shots downfield, and not get conservative. Another thing i think we need to do is to get after Eli. We cannot give him time in the pocket to complete passes. Hopefully our pass rush from this game will carry on. Another thing i just thought of was Ray Brown, we need the old man to step up, and his success will influence our passing and running game. Well thats all I can think of this late. Anyone else think of other things we need to do?

Dirtbag · 12-19-2005, 03:16 AM

The fans have got to be LOUD again, like they were today! We need to take away Manning's ability to audibilize, by making so much noise that he can't change the play at the line of scrimmage. That means the defense can tee off against him, and Greg Williams can scheme away. Why do you think we got 7 sacks today?! It was because of all that noise: Dallas couldn't call audibles.

AnonEmouse · 12-19-2005, 03:38 AM

I hate to find something wrong with yesterday, but we must do something about kickoffs and coverage. They were getting the ball at their 10 and moving it out past the 30 on almost every kickoff. We need to force the Giants to put 70+ yard drives together to score, else it will be a long day.

LRT · 12-19-2005, 03:52 AM

Fan noise eliminates audibles and leads to false starts. Combine that with an effective pass rush and I think Manning will be flustered. That said, we do need to keep an eye on Tiki Barber and prevent him from breaking any big runs. If he has to slog it out at two or three yards a pop, I think we can wear him down, if not force him into turnovers.

On offense, we need to establish the run and make them respect the deep ball.

If we can do that, we'll win. If Tiki breaks big runs or we can't get pressure on Eli, then things will get tough.

JWsleep · 12-19-2005, 05:24 AM

#1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw.

Gmanc711 · 12-19-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

#1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw.

EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.

FRPLG · 12-19-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.

Not sure it is "that simple" but it definitely gives us a much better shot at winning.

Scott · 12-19-2005, 09:35 PM

Does anybody happen to have Hail to the Redskins available? I really need to send it to a buddy of mine...please post it here so I can dowload and send it along...thanks

onsidekick · 12-19-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.

I don't think any D can completely stop Tiki the way he's playing this year. He's such a well conditioned back that he can break one when everybody's worn down. BUT, our D-line is playing much better ball which may allow us to get some coughs/INTs from Eli and maybe even Tiki. We need to convert those opportunities like we did yesterday to win

Twilbert07 · 12-19-2005, 02:09 PM

Tiki will break a big run or two, but if our D can keep him out of the end zone and pressure Manning, we can keep Barber from hurting us the way he did last time.

This game's even bigger than the Dallas game, and the fans played a key role. We need the fans to go crazy against the Giants, too. I was at FedEx yesterday, and I hope the fans going Saturday are ready to be just as loud!

SouperMeister · 12-19-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by onsidekick

I don't think any D can completely stop Tiki the way he's playing this year. He's such a well conditioned back that he can break one when everybody's worn down. BUT, our D-line is playing much better ball which may allow us to get some coughs/INTs from Eli and maybe even Tiki. We need to convert those opportunities like we did yesterday to win

Remember that Tiki put 200+ on us when Cornelius Griffin was hurt. It's obvious that our D is much superior with Grif manning the middle.

Looking at Barber's 2 games against us last year (with Griffin in the lineuup):

18 carries for 42 yards (2.3 average)
15 carries for 38 yards (2.5 average)

Zero TDs for both games. I love our chances against backup tackles in a LOUD FedEx field. Limit Barber, and our D tees off on Eli much as it did against Bledsoe.

ST21 · 12-19-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

#1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw.

Tiki is garbage, hes a overrated running back, running behind a great line.......no if and or buts about it.....

HolyLandSkinsFan · 12-19-2005, 10:59 PM

When coaches play against former players they have a great advantage.

We beat Dallas twice because of Williams and the fact that he used to coach Bledsoe.

Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.

Redskins8588 · 12-20-2005, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HolyLandSkinsFan

Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.

Kinda like in Rocky II when Micky makes Rocky become right handed rather than being a south paw. I like where your going with this idea, it worked for Rocky, it just might work for us!!!

hooskins · 12-20-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyLandSkinsFan

When coaches play against former players they have a great advantage.

We beat Dallas twice because of Williams and the fact that he used to coach Bledsoe.

Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.

Hm thats right, I totally forgot about that. They know our defensive setups, that must have helped them. Plus didn't they know our offensive plays too via Tim Hassleback? I could be wrong, but I am too lazy to look up their roster right now.

12-19-2005, 03:16 AM	#2
Dirtbag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 142	Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win. The fans have got to be LOUD again, like they were today! We need to take away Manning's ability to audibilize, by making so much noise that he can't change the play at the line of scrimmage. That means the defense can tee off against him, and Greg Williams can scheme away. Why do you think we got 7 sacks today?! It was because of all that noise: Dallas couldn't call audibles.

12-19-2005, 03:38 AM	#3
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,643	Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win. I hate to find something wrong with yesterday, but we must do something about kickoffs and coverage. They were getting the ball at their 10 and moving it out past the 30 on almost every kickoff. We need to force the Giants to put 70+ yard drives together to score, else it will be a long day.

12-19-2005, 03:52 AM	#4
LRT Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 59 Posts: 174	Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win. Fan noise eliminates audibles and leads to false starts. Combine that with an effective pass rush and I think Manning will be flustered. That said, we do need to keep an eye on Tiki Barber and prevent him from breaking any big runs. If he has to slog it out at two or three yards a pop, I think we can wear him down, if not force him into turnovers. On offense, we need to establish the run and make them respect the deep ball. If we can do that, we'll win. If Tiki breaks big runs or we can't get pressure on Eli, then things will get tough.

12-19-2005, 05:24 AM	#5
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win. #1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw. __________________ Hail from Houston!

12-19-2005, 09:35 PM	#8
Scott Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 177	Song Request Does anybody happen to have Hail to the Redskins available? I really need to send it to a buddy of mine...please post it here so I can dowload and send it along...thanks

12-19-2005, 03:00 AM	#1
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	How to Beat the G-Men Ok so this game was great, and its sweet to dominate Dallas, but next week is gonna be crucial. I can think of two things we need to do well to beat the NYG. First i think the most imp thing is establish a solid running game with Portis. I do not know the exact stats, but I think if he has a good game the Redskins tend to win. Good running will open up the pass, and hopefully we will continue to take shots downfield, and not get conservative. Another thing i think we need to do is to get after Eli. We cannot give him time in the pocket to complete passes. Hopefully our pass rush from this game will carry on. Another thing i just thought of was Ray Brown, we need the old man to step up, and his success will influence our passing and running game. Well thats all I can think of this late. Anyone else think of other things we need to do?

12-19-2005, 02:09 PM	#10
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win. Tiki will break a big run or two, but if our D can keep him out of the end zone and pressure Manning, we can keep Barber from hurting us the way he did last time. This game's even bigger than the Dallas game, and the fans played a key role. We need the fans to go crazy against the Giants, too. I was at FedEx yesterday, and I hope the fans going Saturday are ready to be just as loud! __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

12-19-2005, 10:59 PM	#13
HolyLandSkinsFan Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tekoa, Israel Age: 51 Posts: 37	How to Beat the G-Men When coaches play against former players they have a great advantage. We beat Dallas twice because of Williams and the fact that he used to coach Bledsoe. Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins. The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook. The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them. I'm concerned about this game.

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