Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator

[REDSKINS4ever]

Here's an interesting story about Greg Manusky.....

Tony Dungy influenced Greg Manusky's decision to coach - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Breeland is a lot better than he played this year. I think it was mainly communication problems - guys were just constantly in the wrong spot.

But yeah, safety's got to get better. McCloughan sees it I'm sure. He may not be willing to pile a bunch of money into that position but I'd be willing to bet he comes away with a safety in rounds 1, 2, or 3.

I think he wants the money to go to the line.

Been lookikg at the DL in FA. Inlike Dontari Poe for the right amount money. Someone to clog the gap who wont get tired after one play Terrance Knighton style

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly;1163942[...

In the days after Joe Barry was fired, Cooley and Sheehan discussed multiple times about the calls coming in late from Barry to the players on the field. Cooley specifically said he heard criticism of Barry coming out of Redskins park that Barry was waiting till the last possible moment to make the defensive call to try to get a better look at what the offense was doing, rather than just basing it on the offensive personnel.

Cooley said he believed most of the pointing and yelling among players right before the snap was in part due to the calls coming in late because Barry was trying to make the perfect call rather than just a good call.

All that being said he placed the bulk of the blame on the players.
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I remember perfectly Cooley saying that.

A few days ago he also made a good point, imo, saying the promotion from within was good from an accountability standpoint.
Like, players who didn't buy into the system, didn't play what they were supposed to play, and brought a bad energy into the locker room (in the segment you talked about he pointed out the DB room which seemed to be an awful mess) do not get a free card.

A new guy coming in wouldn't know about the player's attitude from last year. Manusky will be able to say "you acted like a selfish child last year, you better get your shit together under my watch". Well, he has to be able to do that.

[Defensewins]

Hiring Manusky is a real head scratcher.
Does not fit the standards I was looking for, a proven NFL defensive coordinator.
Are we that bad to work for that we could not hire someone proven?
I will be highly disappointed if we spin our wheels for he next year of two.
We need to make improvements on both sides of the ball. Staying the same or regressing is a big concern of mine. Give me some visible and measurable improvement please. That is all I ask.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Hiring Manusky is a real head scratcher.
Does not fit the standards I was looking for, a proven NFL defensive coordinator.
Are we that bad to work for that we could not hire someone proven?
I will be highly disappointed if we spin our wheels for he next year of two.
We need to make improvements on both sides of the ball. Staying the same or regressing is a big concern of mine. Give me some visible and measurable improvement please. That is all I ask.

tough to disagree, I think his success on 3rd downs and he developed some decent talent within the front 7 is a positive. Positive is knowledge of the staff and he seems to have some defensive players behind him is a major plus. Im glad he stated stopping the run is his focus.

But whats gonna piss me off more is if we walk out in the first game next year with Ricky-jean, Ziggy and Wil Compton as starters. This shit needs to end now. Hopefully JG can stay healthy and push Preston Smith

[SFREDSKIN]

Good article on Tomsula:

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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

tough to disagree, I think his success on 3rd downs and he developed some decent talent within the front 7 is a positive. Positive is knowledge of the staff and he seems to have some defensive players behind him is a major plus. Im glad he stated stopping the run is his focus.

But whats gonna piss me off more is if we walk out in the first game next year with Ricky-jean, Ziggy and Wil Compton as starters. This shit needs to end now. Hopefully JG can stay healthy and push Preston Smith

And Colt McCoy or Brian Hoyer as the starting QB...

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

And Colt McCoy or Brian Hoyer as the starting QB...

Folks we start either one of those QB, be prepared for double digits loses...

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

And Colt McCoy or Brian Hoyer as the starting QB...

Shut your mouth!

[Chief X_Phackter]

Yeah seems unfathomable, but it wouldn't surprise me at all at this point. My gut tells me he'll be back next year one way or another, but given the history of this organization, particularly some of the suspect personnel decisions that have been made over the past couple decades, I'm not at all confident that he'll be here. It think it's 50-50 at this point.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Yeah seems unfathomable, but it wouldn't surprise me at all at this point. My gut tells me he'll be back next year one way or another, but given the history of this organization, particularly some of the suspect personnel decisions that have been made over the past couple decades, I'm not at all confident that he'll be here. It think it's 50-50 at this point.

I agree with you but this is absolutely crazy that we're in this situation...

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Hiring Manusky is a real head scratcher.
Does not fit the standards I was looking for, a proven NFL defensive coordinator.
Are we that bad to work for that we could not hire someone proven?
I will be highly disappointed if we spin our wheels for he next year of two.
We need to make improvements on both sides of the ball. Staying the same or regressing is a big concern of mine. Give me some visible and measurable improvement please. That is all I ask.

It is my opinion that one of the things that made it tough to get other more proven candidates for any of our openings was/is the uncertainty regarding Jay Gruden's future. He is coming into year 4, and since Snyder has owned the team we have never had a HC longer than 4 seasons. Probably most did not want to sign on, only to get canned after one year if this season doesn't go well. And i know some people are saying, well there is a chance that the new HC after Gruden could choose to keep the assistants, but that is only a chance and not usually what happens...

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It is my opinion that one of the things that made it tough to get other more proven candidates for any of our openings was/is the uncertainty regarding Jay Gruden's future. He is coming into year 4, and since Snyder has owned the team we have never had a HC longer than 4 seasons. Probably most did not want to sign on, only to get canned after one year if this season doesn't go well. And i know some people are saying, well there is a chance that the new HC after Gruden could choose to keep the assistants, but that is only a chance and not usually what happens...

Agree. Gruden should have been extended for no other reason than this. The front office has fired coaches left and right, a one year extension is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but might have a huge impact on hiring.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It is my opinion that one of the things that made it tough to get other more proven candidates for any of our openings was/is the uncertainty regarding Jay Gruden's future. He is coming into year 4, and since Snyder has owned the team we have never had a HC longer than 4 seasons. Probably most did not want to sign on, only to get canned after one year if this season doesn't go well. And i know some people are saying, well there is a chance that the new HC after Gruden could choose to keep the assistants, but that is only a chance and not usually what happens...

That's really what it boils down to. Honestly, I think what the Redskins front office should have done was to go ahead and extend Gruden's contract for another couple of years. Yes, it's taking a chance, but it's sending a message that they have faith in Jay Gruden (whether if they do or don't) and I believe that would have changed the situation with the defensive coordinator.

Heck, even if the front office had let it leak out to the press that they were within negotiations with Jay on extending his contract, that would have made it sound as if they're willing to stick with Gruden as long as it takes - whether if the negotiations panned out or not. Who knows? Maybe that would have been enough to have lured either Bradley or Pettine to Washington. But, what is done is done now. Hopefully Manusky can improve the defense enough to get the 'skins into the playoffs.

[CRedskinsRule]

Pettine has been out of work for a year - it didn't boil down to JG's contract status.
Bradley had a specific link with the new SD HC - again didn't boil down to JG's contract status
Phillips we have passed on twice - I think this is more JG's comfort zone, or lack thereof with coaches/staff he knows/doesn't know.
Wilks was kept on at Carolina.

I don't see JG's contract status as a hindrance (maybe it was). And in Pettine's case, I think it actually could have been an incentive (ie do a good job and if JG stumbles we have a spot for you as HC)

I'm a big Snyder defender, so let me say in terms of the 4year point. At 4 years a coach has either set the team on the right course or not. I have no problem with his coach firings after his first couple years. Name one that should have been extended or given more time. I can't (given that Gibbs left/wasn't fired).

Gruden will be extended if he shows he has the team under control and is headed the right way.