Pacman Arrested

[GhettoDogAllStars]

i'm really 24.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

i'm really 24.

Lies, your dirty old man in his 50's.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The bigger question is have we, as a whole, been conditioned to think of and label a particular culture in a certain way? I think it's a valid argument.

Absolutely. IMO, that is what has happened with racism--it's gone underground (in America). What's worse, people don't even think that it's racism--they think you have to be lynching and segregating to be racist.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by saden1

Lies, your dirty old man in his 50's.

dammit. you blew my cover. oh well, time to find a new forum to lurk on.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think we all agree on the textbook definition and even the orgin of the word itself. In the heat of the moment when I'm passing judgements and making off color remarks, sorry sometimes I do, I don't refer to Wikipedia or Google.

The bigger question is have we, as a whole, been conditioned to think of and label a particular culture in a certain way? I think it's a valid argument.

You mean a label like the REDSKINS? Or like YANKEES? Valid? Dude, it's life. We've come a long way I think from the days long ago. I'm sure we will continue to better ourselves as people and try even harder to be "politically correct" going forward. I doubt there was any harm meant towards blacks in that comment, it was just a comment and a word was used. The guy is a thug – white/black/yellow. It is what it is.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Absolutely. IMO, that is what has happened with racism--it's gone underground (in America). What's worse, people don't even think that it's racism--they think you have to be lynching and segregating to be racist.

That's kinda my point. If you search some of the old Sean Taylor threads when he got arrested on the aggravated assault charge, I was pretty heated about the whole 'thug' thing. If you're not conditioned or think this way - outstanding!

I think it's more subtle and powerful than we realize.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

You mean a label like the REDSKINS? Or like YANKEES? Valid? Dude, it's life. We've come a long way I think from the days long ago. I'm sure we will continue to better ourselves as people and try even harder to be "politically correct" going forward. I doubt there was any harm meant towards blacks in that comment, it was just a comment and a word was used. The guy is a thug – white/black/yellow. It is what it is.

Well I'm not sure Reskins or Yankees enters into this discussion quite the same way. Simply because neither one always, all the time carry a negative image, unlike the word thug. (I just said I wasn't going to stretch this out!) There is nothing positive or of any redeemable value in that word. Nothing. In fact, it carries a negative connotation.

Yes, we've come a long way! Yes, it's life....I agree! And I'm not getting on anyway in particular. I'm just saying is it possible that we have been conditioned to think a certain way and not know it?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think it's more subtle and powerful than we realize.

Yeah, it is more powerful than we realize. We're talking about people's perception, which influences their actions and thoughts. The bad thing is, now it is much harder to confront someone about it (because it is subtle, and less obvious).

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Yeah, it is more powerful than we realize. We're talking about people's perception, which influences their actions and thoughts. The bad thing is, now it is much harder to confront someone about it (because it is subtle, and less obvious).

The more you talk about it the more power it has.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

The more you talk about it the more power it has.

Not talking about gives it an equal amount of power.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

The more you talk about it the more power it has.

The more aware we are of our perceptions (and what, or who, shapes them), the more control we have over them.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by LBrown43

Just for the record, the word "thug" originates from India. Here is its origin information from this site: BBC - Religion & Ethics - Thugs

The English word thug, meaning a violent criminal, comes from the Hindi word thag (and originally from the Sanskrit word sthaga), meaning a thief or villain.

The original Thugs were bands of roving criminals in India who strangled and robbed travellers. Originally these gangs committed murder following precise religious rites to honour Kali, the Hindu goddess of destruction.
The crime was known as Thuggee, and although it involved a Hindu goddess, there were Muslim Thugs as well.

In the 19th century Thugs were strangling 40,000 people a year but by then many cases of Thuggee were straightforward robbery with no religious significance.

Looks like the hip-hop culture took it on as their own but I can remember that a thug was just any hoodlum black/white, Jew/Gentile.
In my book Romanowski is a classic thug.

True that, hip-hop culture takes alot of words from India and adopts them for their own. For example the word gully, which basically means a side alley in a city to anyone in India.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

The more aware we are of our perceptions (and what, or who, shapes them), the more control we have over them.

zzzzzzzzzz I'm out of this conversation.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

yeah, I know. it was a boring post.

[dmek25]

not to stir the pot but i totally disagree with ghettoblahblah. if anything reverse discrimination is running rampet in the good ole US of A. i am personally all about giving jobs to the most qualified applicants. there should never be a conflict because of race, religion or sex in filling a job. nowadays employers are so afraid not to hire a minority over someone else who is actually more qualified that its sickening