DT Daryl Gardener becomes a FA

Defensewins · 03-11-2004, 10:10 AM

Washington Post says:
"Defensive tackle Daryl Gardener settled his dispute with the Denver Broncos yesterday,and secured an agreement that he will become a free agent. Under the terms of the settlement, the Broncos agreed to release Gardener in June and to allow Gardener and his representative to begin exploring deals with other teams immediately, NFL sources said last night.
Gardener's top choices likely will include the Washington Redskins, with whom he spent the 2002 season, and the Cincinnati Bengals. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar10.html

Skins should sign him! He would immeadiately become the best DT on the team. I don't think Brandon Noble will be fully healed from such a bad knee injury. It takes a full year to recover from just an ACL injury. Brandon tore his ACL, MCL and dislocated his knee cap (which in all likelyhood tore his patella tendon). He is not going to be the same player this coming season. It will take more time. We should still keep Brandon Noble on the roster though.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 03-11-2004, 10:23 AM

I agree, but do we have the $$ to sign him? He is going to want a big pay day I'm sure.

I know there will be abundance of posts saying that he has character issues and will be disruptive in the locker room, etc... But I think he played great for us and would be the final building block on our D-Line. Now we can focus on Taylor or KWII...

Here's a question to you smart folks: Don't we have a cap hit on the books right now from when we released him? What happens to that hit if we resign him?? Does it go away? Or can it be merged with his new contract??

I'd be very interested to find out....

cpayne5 · 03-11-2004, 10:26 AM

I have concerns about his back problems as well.

MTK · 03-11-2004, 10:32 AM

I think after his adventures in Denver he won't have much leverage in seeking a big money deal, he'll likely have to settle for a cheap one year deal.

I'd give him a look for a cheap, incentive filled deal.

MTK · 03-11-2004, 10:33 AM

I think concerns about his back pale in comparison to his off the field troubles and his behavior problems.

MTK · 03-11-2004, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

I agree, but do we have the $$ to sign him? He is going to want a big pay day I'm sure.

I know there will be abundance of posts saying that he has character issues and will be disruptive in the locker room, etc... But I think he played great for us and would be the final building block on our D-Line. Now we can focus on Taylor or KWII...

Here's a question to you smart folks: Don't we have a cap hit on the books right now from when we released him? What happens to that hit if we resign him?? Does it go away? Or can it be merged with his new contract??

I'd be very interested to find out....

I don't think we took any cap hit for him, if I remember correctly he signed a one year deal with us and we simply chose to not re-sign him.

Defensewins · 03-11-2004, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Here's a question to you smart folks: Don't we have a cap hit on the books right now from when we released him? What happens to that hit if we resign him?? Does it go away? Or can it be merged with his new contract??

I'd be very interested to find out....

He only signed a one year contract with us two years ago. So there was no dead money cost to our cap in regards to D. Gardner.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 03-11-2004, 10:39 AM

OK - Thanks guys.

I think that him, Noble, and Griffin would be a nice interior rotation!

I definitely like him better than "Worn" Sapp!!

Defensewins · 03-11-2004, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

I have concerns about his back problems as well.

He doesn't have to be a full time starter. With the other talented DT on the roster, Gardener could play on key plays like third and longs or third and short, like Jumpy Geathers did. This guy is great at smashing the pocket. Something we haven't had since he left.

skins009 · 03-11-2004, 10:48 AM

If I could get Gardner for a real cheap deal i would sign him. But I think he's gonna go to the bongals.

AnonEmouse · 03-11-2004, 10:54 AM

It depends on whether he wants to play for Lewis or Williams. I agree that if he wants to be here and is talking a soft contract, then bring him in.

MTK · 03-11-2004, 11:04 AM

I remember reading a while back that the Skins FO said they would not be interested in pursuing Gardener if he became available, so we'll see.

I say he'll end up in Cincy. Gardener is a headache that Gibbs doesn't need.

JWsleep · 03-11-2004, 11:54 AM

If we don't trade down (and I doubt we will), then we will try to fill in the gaps on the d-line with undrafted rooks, cap casualties and problem guys like Gardner. All this will happen after the June 1st cut date. We'll also clear cap space for that (Moore, Trung, Trotter?), and to sign our 1st rounder.

Gardner is good, and he behaved last time he was here. Maybe DC calms him down? He's certainly gonna be on a relatively short list, but his character may send him to Cincy. Who else is there on the potential cap causalty list?

backrow · 03-11-2004, 12:31 PM

Matty! My understanding is we tried to make an offer to Gardner after 2002, but he wanted to shop around and market his skills.

Now the question arrises about whether to take him back. I say yes! Definitely.

Is he a character guy? I say there is no one out there with more character except Ray Lewis and the banned drug offenders! LOL!

Is it a questionable character or good character? Now we narrow it down a little. He was good while here. The FO should know. They wined him and dined him the first go around.

Did he suddenly turn bad? Well, I submit that he shook hands with Coach Shanahan 3 times during the exit interview! That's not bad! Go for it cousinvinnie! Send the plane(s)! (We did use two during FA according to today's Post, I was right!)

How old is Gardner, anyway?

cpayne5 · 03-11-2004, 12:49 PM

His back acts up after very little playing time sometime. Is a non-everydown player worth the amount of money that he'll be asking for?

03-11-2004, 10:10 AM	#1
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,765	DT Daryl Gardener becomes a FA Washington Post says: "Defensive tackle Daryl Gardener settled his dispute with the Denver Broncos yesterday,and secured an agreement that he will become a free agent. Under the terms of the settlement, the Broncos agreed to release Gardener in June and to allow Gardener and his representative to begin exploring deals with other teams immediately, NFL sources said last night. Gardener's top choices likely will include the Washington Redskins, with whom he spent the 2002 season, and the Cincinnati Bengals. " http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar10.html Skins should sign him! He would immeadiately become the best DT on the team. I don't think Brandon Noble will be fully healed from such a bad knee injury. It takes a full year to recover from just an ACL injury. Brandon tore his ACL, MCL and dislocated his knee cap (which in all likelyhood tore his patella tendon). He is not going to be the same player this coming season. It will take more time. We should still keep Brandon Noble on the roster though.

03-11-2004, 11:54 AM	#13
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	If we don't trade down (and I doubt we will), then we will try to fill in the gaps on the d-line with undrafted rooks, cap casualties and problem guys like Gardner. All this will happen after the June 1st cut date. We'll also clear cap space for that (Moore, Trung, Trotter?), and to sign our 1st rounder. Gardner is good, and he behaved last time he was here. Maybe DC calms him down? He's certainly gonna be on a relatively short list, but his character may send him to Cincy. Who else is there on the potential cap causalty list? __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-11-2004, 12:31 PM	#14
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	Matty! Matty! My understanding is we tried to make an offer to Gardner after 2002, but he wanted to shop around and market his skills. Now the question arrises about whether to take him back. I say yes! Definitely. Is he a character guy? I say there is no one out there with more character except Ray Lewis and the banned drug offenders! LOL! Is it a questionable character or good character? Now we narrow it down a little. He was good while here. The FO should know. They wined him and dined him the first go around. Did he suddenly turn bad? Well, I submit that he shook hands with Coach Shanahan 3 times during the exit interview! That's not bad! Go for it cousinvinnie! Send the plane(s)! (We did use two during FA according to today's Post, I was right!) How old is Gardner, anyway? __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

03-11-2004, 10:23 AM	#2
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	I agree, but do we have the $$ to sign him? He is going to want a big pay day I'm sure. I know there will be abundance of posts saying that he has character issues and will be disruptive in the locker room, etc... But I think he played great for us and would be the final building block on our D-Line. Now we can focus on Taylor or KWII... Here's a question to you smart folks: Don't we have a cap hit on the books right now from when we released him? What happens to that hit if we resign him?? Does it go away? Or can it be merged with his new contract?? I'd be very interested to find out....

03-11-2004, 10:26 AM	#3
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	I have concerns about his back problems as well.

03-11-2004, 10:32 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	I think after his adventures in Denver he won't have much leverage in seeking a big money deal, he'll likely have to settle for a cheap one year deal. I'd give him a look for a cheap, incentive filled deal.

03-11-2004, 10:33 AM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	I think concerns about his back pale in comparison to his off the field troubles and his behavior problems.

03-11-2004, 10:39 AM	#8
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	OK - Thanks guys. I think that him, Noble, and Griffin would be a nice interior rotation! I definitely like him better than "Worn" Sapp!!

03-11-2004, 10:48 AM	#10
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	If I could get Gardner for a real cheap deal i would sign him. But I think he's gonna go to the bongals.

03-11-2004, 10:54 AM	#11
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,643	It depends on whether he wants to play for Lewis or Williams. I agree that if he wants to be here and is talking a soft contract, then bring him in.

03-11-2004, 11:04 AM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	I remember reading a while back that the Skins FO said they would not be interested in pursuing Gardener if he became available, so we'll see. I say he'll end up in Cincy. Gardener is a headache that Gibbs doesn't need.

03-11-2004, 12:49 PM	#15
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	His back acts up after very little playing time sometime. Is a non-everydown player worth the amount of money that he'll be asking for?

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