Classless Coach Belichick

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent is waiting for you to run it and kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.

Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

It's simple people: begging for mercy and not wanting to be humiliated are NOT the same.

Belichick humiliated us, and people are upset. What's so hard to understand?

Most of the people arguing for Belichick can only say, "what do you want them to do? Win the game for you? They don't need to show you mercy." Obviously, that's the only argument you can come up with, because there is no justification for humiliation. Why don't you address the real issue (humiliation), instead of making up a new one that you can argue for?

Just quit talking if all you can say is that they don't have to show you mercy. No shit Sherlock. They don't HAVE to show humility either -- but they should. Why don't you tell us why humility isn't important?

Isn't every team "humiliated" by every loss? No matter how large or small the point margin?

Call it what you want, humiliated, humbled, embarassed, -- just don't complain about the opposing team trying to score points. No NFL offense has an obligation to avoid scoring just because the other teams' players might get their feelings hurt.

These are grown men we're talking about here. The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent can kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.

I'm feeling you on Godfrey. I mean, what has the NFL turned into, the gentlemen's club? Who goes to the opposing coach and complains after a game. I don't want this guy on my team. No fight, no nasty. We need three more Sean Taylors and one more Laron Landry on this team. Too many soft asses...hell, let Portis play defense.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.

So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.

Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm feeling you on Godfrey. I mean, what has the NFL turned into, the gentlemen's club? Who goes to the opposing coach and complains after a game. I don't want this guy on my team. No fight, no nasty. We need three more Sean Taylors and one more Laron Landry on this team. Too many soft asses...hell, let Portis play defense.

Honestly we should just cut him to send a message. We simply don't need guys like that.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.

LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

I agree with you and Skinsfan69. Why didn't anyone say something when they did that to other teams like the 0-6 Dolphins, no one thought that was classless. I am not sure but I think the Skins D had their image shaken and that is what they don't like. Up untill that game, the D was regarded highly and many thought could survive against good teams. I am not hearing much crying from the offensive side of the ball. The D gave up late in the game and expected NE to do the same.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Isn't every team "humiliated" by every loss? No matter how large or small the point margin?

Call it what you want, humiliated, humbled, embarassed, -- just don't complain about the opposing team trying to score points. No NFL offense has an obligation to avoid scoring just because the other teams' players might get their feelings hurt.

These are grown men we're talking about here. The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.

So, just because you think teams (and people) are humiliated every day that makes it right? Please. Just because things happen doesn't mean they should. It's called is/ought confusion, and you are definitely confused.

I'm not complaining about the opposing team scoring points. I'm complaining about BB not showing humility. It's a thing that humans (should) do -- regardless of your job, or how much you get paid. Don't twist words to suit your argument. Scoring points isn't the problem.

Yes, they are grown men. That is why they should behave in a more considerate and respectable manner. They could have stopped with 38 points, but they decided to add another 14. And, that's not a problem. It's just that they kept their starters in. That shows they were INTENTIONALLY trying to run up the score. Eight year olds are still learning how to behave in a considerate and respectable manner. Grown men should already know how to do that.

It is baffling that you think people asking for others to be considerate are acting like eight year olds, but people who couldn't care less about their fellow man are being "grown men". I am so disappointed in you.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Well, what's done is done. I do not expect the Patriots to do anything different the rest of the year unless someone actually gives them a game...and I'm not so sure that will happen. I'm not so sure the Colts can handle them either.

Look. There's no sense in dwelling on the fact that we got our asses handed to us. They ran up the score...they didn't run up the score...bottom line is a good team got pummelled by a great team. The best way to react to that is for the Redskins to go to New York and hand out an ass whooping of their own.

I think this coming weekend will be a much better guage as to where this team is and can go, as compared to last weekend.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.

Well, I heard Steve Young and Tom Jackson say it was wrong. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had a problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

I would have had no problem with them kicking the field goal just like I had no problem with their backup trying to score because that is vastly different than having your starters throwing deep when you're already up by 7 scores.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

Check your math, Cowchip fan. 52 - 49 = 3.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.

You missed my point, the score didn't tick me off, the fact that they were going for it on 4th down and throwing bombs down the field with a huge lead is what annoyed me. I know, I know, stop them if you don't want them doing that sort of thing. Actually even if we stopped them it would have annoyed me. I would have been thinking what the hell are they doing going for it on 4th down?!

It wasn't the end result, just the way they went about their business not just Sunday but all season that irks me. Belichick seems to be on a personal mission to embarrass the entire league since he himself was embarrassed over the cheating scandal. I'm just not a big fan of him.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

I agree with you and Skinsfan69. Why didn't anyone say something when they did that to other teams like the 0-6 Dolphins, no one thought that was classless. I am not sure but I think the Skins D had their image shaken and that is what they don't like. Up untill that game, the D was regarded highly and many thought could survive against good teams. I am not hearing much crying from the offensive side of the ball. The D gave up late in the game and expected NE to do the same.

Honestly, their D clearly backed off at the end of the game and that's how we were able to drive for the touchdown and avoid the shut out.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.

I've heard plenty of opinions on both sides of the issue from those in the media.

[over the mountain]

i wasnt mad at the Pats for running up the score, our hard-hittin skins D should have sent coach B a message by sending a few starters to the bench on a stretcher . . .

one commentator last night did say something i hadnt thought of . . . the fake spike when the pats were already cruising (then randy pushing off) was alil cheap. I understand doing that when your trying to tie or take the lead late in a game but when your cruising to victory and show a spike the other teams D players assume your going to spike it to kick a field goal so they (as a professional courtesy) just mush together with the O line and dont try and penetrate or get to the QB