Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs?

jsarno · 12-30-2007, 06:43 PM

OK...seeing as my brother is a Pats fan, we discussed the possibility of the Pats losing in the playoffs, and if so, that will make the entire season more of a joke than anything. Look at Seattle Mariners when they had that magical season a few years back and no one ever talks about them as being one of the best.
So where would these Patriots fall in history if they fail to win it all?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-30-2007, 06:51 PM

They go down as perfect with an aserterix in the regular season for cheating. They go down as imperfect for losing in the course of the ENTIRE season.

MTK · 12-30-2007, 06:54 PM

Can't be perfect with a loss.

Daseal · 12-30-2007, 07:01 PM

I think if anything if they win one more game they are even with the Dolphins that went 17-0.

skinsguy · 12-30-2007, 07:06 PM

Nope. Gotta win it all.

jsarno · 12-30-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Nope. Gotta win it all.

That's the way I see it. Either win it all, or be the only undefeated team to not win the super bowl.

BleedBurgundy · 12-30-2007, 07:43 PM

I don't think you get credit for being undefeated... if you've been defeated. That said, I still think they've already accomplished more than the '72 Dolphins. To do this in the era of free agency is amazing.

Darrell_Green_28 · 12-30-2007, 07:46 PM

no they havent accomplished more.. they havent wont the superbowl to go undefeated for the whole season as well as playoff.. thats what they must do ..like i said i would love to see the Skins beat them in the SB... NOTHING would be better than that.

dmek25 · 12-30-2007, 08:06 PM

if they don't win it all, they will go down as one of the biggest chokers of all time

Gmanc711 · 12-30-2007, 08:08 PM

It's all or nothing for them....If they win it all, they go down as the absolute best ever (and rightfully so)...if they lose, they will be an afterthought.

rypper11 · 12-30-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I think if anything if they win one more game they are even with the Dolphins that went 17-0.

No way. Need to win the SB to be even w/ Dolphins as perfect. 17-1 is worse than 17-0. Part of being the greatest is beating 3 great teams in a row. If they beat Jags, Colts and then Skins (wishful I know) then they are even with 72 dolphins. If we beat the Pats like we couldn't do in 72, then Dolphins are still best.

SouperMeister · 12-30-2007, 10:40 PM

16-0 is meaningless if you don't finish the deal. The Pats have looked much more vulnerable the 2nd half of the season than they did early.

My dream is that we somehow get to the Super Bowl, and we run up the score on the Pats they way Belicheat did on us back in October. Hey, I can dream can't I???

saden1 · 12-30-2007, 10:47 PM

Alex Trebek: The only NFL team to with a perfect season that didn't win the Super Bowl.
Contestent: What is New England Patriots?

If you can't win the big game you season is pretty meaningless if you ask me. Hope the Pats get ambushed in the payoffs.

SFREDSKIN · 12-30-2007, 10:49 PM

I'm dreaming right now, but how great would it be us making it to the SB against the Patriots. 2 3X SB champ coaches going against each other with the exception that Joe will be out to redeem himself for being embarrassed against them. Out of the 4 undefeated teams of all time Bears 2X, Dolphins and now the Pats, the skins have been involved in 2 out of those 3 games with #4 to be determined. We beat the undefeated Bears in the championship game in 1943-44? Lost to the Dolphins in 72, could we be in this year? Makes you think, doesn't it.

EternalEnigma21 · 12-30-2007, 10:52 PM

I think the Pats now have a serious target on their back. If they DO win out and win a SB, I will concede they are the best team all time... not that it matters a rat turd what I think...

I think they will lose in the playoffs. There are a couple of teams that can pressure them that don't get flustered by their pressure schemes and will expose their over the hill linebacking corps.

12-30-2007, 06:43 PM	#1
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? OK...seeing as my brother is a Pats fan, we discussed the possibility of the Pats losing in the playoffs, and if so, that will make the entire season more of a joke than anything. Look at Seattle Mariners when they had that magical season a few years back and no one ever talks about them as being one of the best. So where would these Patriots fall in history if they fail to win it all? __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

12-30-2007, 06:51 PM	#2
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? They go down as perfect with an aserterix in the regular season for cheating. They go down as imperfect for losing in the course of the ENTIRE season.

12-30-2007, 06:54 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,749	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? Can't be perfect with a loss. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-30-2007, 07:06 PM	#5
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? Nope. Gotta win it all. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

12-30-2007, 07:43 PM	#7
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? I don't think you get credit for being undefeated... if you've been defeated. That said, I still think they've already accomplished more than the '72 Dolphins. To do this in the era of free agency is amazing. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

12-30-2007, 07:01 PM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? I think if anything if they win one more game they are even with the Dolphins that went 17-0. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

12-30-2007, 07:46 PM	#8
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Robert, Louisiana Age: 56 Posts: 2,119	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? no they havent accomplished more.. they havent wont the superbowl to go undefeated for the whole season as well as playoff.. thats what they must do ..like i said i would love to see the Skins beat them in the SB... NOTHING would be better than that.

12-30-2007, 08:06 PM	#9
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? if they don't win it all, they will go down as one of the biggest chokers of all time __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-30-2007, 08:08 PM	#10
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? It's all or nothing for them....If they win it all, they go down as the absolute best ever (and rightfully so)...if they lose, they will be an afterthought. __________________ #21

12-30-2007, 10:40 PM	#12
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? 16-0 is meaningless if you don't finish the deal. The Pats have looked much more vulnerable the 2nd half of the season than they did early. My dream is that we somehow get to the Super Bowl, and we run up the score on the Pats they way Belicheat did on us back in October. Hey, I can dream can't I???

12-30-2007, 10:47 PM	#13
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? Alex Trebek: The only NFL team to with a perfect season that didn't win the Super Bowl. Contestent: What is New England Patriots? If you can't win the big game you season is pretty meaningless if you ask me. Hope the Pats get ambushed in the payoffs. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

12-30-2007, 10:49 PM	#14
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? I'm dreaming right now, but how great would it be us making it to the SB against the Patriots. 2 3X SB champ coaches going against each other with the exception that Joe will be out to redeem himself for being embarrassed against them. Out of the 4 undefeated teams of all time Bears 2X, Dolphins and now the Pats, the skins have been involved in 2 out of those 3 games with #4 to be determined. We beat the undefeated Bears in the championship game in 1943-44? Lost to the Dolphins in 72, could we be in this year? Makes you think, doesn't it. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-30-2007, 10:52 PM	#15
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 45 Posts: 2,958	Re: Do the Pats go down as perfect if they lose in the playoffs? I think the Pats now have a serious target on their back. If they DO win out and win a SB, I will concede they are the best team all time... not that it matters a rat turd what I think... I think they will lose in the playoffs. There are a couple of teams that can pressure them that don't get flustered by their pressure schemes and will expose their over the hill linebacking corps. __________________ I am the brute squad.

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