2010 NFL Preseason

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Man, if Donovan came out of the Ravens game with a sprained ankle, I don't think things are looking up for Eli Manning and the Giants' aging/injured o-line....

New York Giants QB Eli Manning says he'll play Saturday - ESPN New York

.......keep hoping , you're good at that.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.......keep hoping , you're good at that.

I have nothing to hope for, just making an observation about the state of your o-line going against a defense that just pounded our QB. Maybe nothing will happen.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

The guys they picked up are more scheme fits than just a splurge. Holmes still has many years in front of him and he showed why he's a starter and not a backup. Jason Taylor thrives in the 3-4, and the Jets run a 3-4. Braylon Edwards apparently just needed a change of scenery and LT is their pass catching RB third down back.

Have to agree with Sir Cp on this one Lotus. The Jets acquired guys that were needed and fit their plans to a T. Also the guys aren't wheeze kids. Notice how I said plans. In 2000 I am not too sure DS had a plan and it showed. Deion was a waste of space for us. Bruce Smith did contribute some. Andre Reed had only a handful of catches for us with only one TD. Larry Centers performed very well for us and Adrian Murrell had some decent moments, but not that many. DS just threw a ton of money at aging Probowlers and thought they could get him back to the divisionals or better.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Have to agree with Sir Cp on this one Lotus. The Jets acquired guys that were needed and fit their plans to a T. Also the guys aren't wheeze kids. Notice how I said plans. In 2000 I am not too sure DS had a plan and it showed. Deion was a waste of space for us. Bruce Smith did contribute some. Andre Reed had only a handful of catches for us with only one TD. Larry Centers performed very well for us and Adrian Murrell had some decent moments, but not that many. DS just threw a ton of money at aging Probowlers and thought they could get him back to the divisionals or better.

How are Jason Taylor and LT not aging Pro Bowlers?

Maybe you guys are right. We'll see.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

How are Jason Taylor and LT not aging Pro Bowlers?

Maybe you guys are right. We'll see.

But are scheme fits and not signed to ridiculously long contract lengths. Taylor is a 3-4 LBer and nothing else. Lucky for the Jets, the run a 3-4. Not only that, it was only a contract in which "Taylor received a two-year, $13 million deal...
Realistically, however, it's a one-year contract with heavy incentives and guarantees Taylor $2.5 million with a maximum of $3.75 million, the source said." . Same thing for LT. Two year deal for 5.1 mil up with a max 5.6 mil. They needed a catching back, so why not LT?

Deion got a seven year deal worth 56 million.
Bruce Smith got a FIVE year deal worth 23 million.

Not only that, LT and JT are both hungry for a championship.

So, I think it's pretty clear that DS was just throwing money blindly in such a manner that even Madden players would not have done while the Jets knew what they were doing when they signed old vets. You can't have a team full of aging vets, but you need enough of them to play a supplemental role in guiding the young guys and providing consistent play to hold the fort. I have Madden 2002, and some FA classes are outright poor and if there are any highly rated players, they're old and prone to retire at any moment.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Lotus

How are Jason Taylor and LT not aging Pro Bowlers?

Maybe you guys are right. We'll see.

Cp has it right. Scheme fits that didn't cost a bundle. Shoot we were paying for Deion through Spurrier and the guy only had like 2-3 INTs for us his entire time here. Andre Reed even cost a bundle compared to what we got out of him. We could have easily drafted or signed an undrafted CB and another WR for less and we would have gotten more production out of them. That being said, it still might not work with the Jets and you will be right. But I think the Jets had a plan in acquiring these guys while DS more or less shot from the hip. His spending spree cost us half a decade of salary cap hell.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I have nothing to hope for, just making an observation about the state of your o-line going against a defense that just pounded our QB. Maybe nothing will happen.

Ok so, becuase your QB got pounded(your words).....Eli will get pounded.I wqs hoping with it being preseason we could just put a red jersey on him and play tag .

[Dirtbag59]

Polumbus exploring options
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The Denver Broncos chose to waive right tackle Tyler Polumbus on Tuesday, per Mike Klis of the Denver Post, and now he'll have to venture into the uncharted waters of playing competitive football for a team that doesn't call the state of Colorado home.

According to Klis, the Broncos' new power-blocking scheme was not a match for Polumbus, who seems more of a fit in a zone-blocking scheme. Therefore, Klis opines that the Washington Redskins, Houston Texans, Seattle Seahawks or Oakland Raiders could be a fit. Former NFL lineman and current Sports Illustrated scribe Ross Tucker thinks that the Dallas Cowboys or Pittsburgh Steelers might also show some interest. While everyone's in speculative mode, we'll go ahead and throw the Buffalo Bills in the mix, given their massive need on the bookends.

2010 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 62 | Key


Comment: Polumbus is a quality backup who can step in and give the occasional start as he develops his strength and technique. He knows how to use his size and arm length to control and steer opponents on by the pocket, but will become a leaner and overextend, causing him to fall off blocks at times. He lacks the kind of lateral range to seal off the corner vs. some of the league's better edge rushers but knows how to protect the pocket and play within himself. He does not do a great job of finishing blocks off, but he is still improving and could develop into an adequate starter in time.

[tryfuhl]

Interesting.. sounds like he'd be on the same level of Heyer though

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Interesting.. sounds like he'd be on the same level of Heyer though

Personally at this point I would rather have Polumbus and Heyer then just Heyer as a backup Tackle. Also at 25 the guy is young enough to develop. Much to my chagrin, Capers is probably going to be lucky to make the practice squad. Cook on the other hand will probably make the practice squad but he's not ready to play in the NFL.

[SmootSmack]

ESPN The Magazine NFL Preview will be out later this week. Good piece on Tony Washington (the OL with the sister issues) as well as some other good features.

As for the predictions

Jaws: Ravens over Cowboys (Redskins Wild Card)
Gruden: Colts over Saints (Redskins no playoffs)
Others (Mag Writers/Football Outsiders/Scouts): Ravens over Packers (Redskins Wild Card)

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Personally at this point I would rather have Polumbus and Heyer then just Heyer as a backup Tackle. Also at 25 the guy is young enough to develop. Much to my chagrin, Capers is probably going to be lucky to make the practice squad. Cook on the other hand will probably make the practice squad but he's not ready to play in the NFL.

claimed by the Lions

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

claimed by the Lions

Well that was fun. Okay, what's next?

[tryfuhl]

Smoot.. preview on the article about Washington?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Anybody else watching the Redskins vs. Ravens replay right now? I refuse to say that Suggs owned Williams this game. I saw Williams pancake him even more times than I saw before. Yes, everyone wants to concentrate on the one or two plays that Suggs owned him, but that's pretty damn good considering.