Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

And that right there is why I'm very hesitant about getting rid of Mike Shanahan - especially after this season. The team as a whole does not need to be blown up nor does a new regime need to come in and replace what's working. The offense is fine, the offensive philosophy is fine. Give the playcalling duties to Mike if need be, but unless the 'skins are adding a few pieces to the offense, it doesn't need to be touched.

Now, the rest of the team is a different story. I like Ryan Kerrigan, but I don't really care if a new regime blows the defense and special teams completely up at all. More power to them.

Yep and another HC change is going to mean significant changes across the roster whether it's broken or not. I hope people realize that.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yep and another HC change is going to mean significant changes across the roster whether it's broken or not. I hope people realize that.

Not necessarily. Not necessarily at all, really. I mean after three seasons it'll be a different roster, but that's to be expected anyway.

A decent coach will look to use the talent already here, and of course add to it. A smart coach will use the talent already here better than it's used now, plus add more talent.

I don't think a new coach automatically has a priority to blow up the roster and try to remake the team into something different over night. Just because it's Shanny's way of operating doesn't mean the next guy takes the same approach, and that's a good thing!

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Not necessarily. Not necessarily at all, really. I mean after three seasons it'll be a different roster, but that's to be expected anyway.

A decent coach will look to use the talent already here, and of course add to it. A smart coach will use the talent already here better than it's used now, plus add more talent.

I don't think a new coach automatically has a priority to blow up the roster and try to remake the team into something different over night. Just because it's Shanny's way of operating doesn't mean the next guy takes the same approach, and that's a good thing!

You're assuming a new coaching staff is not going to touch the offense. That's a lot to assume.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

You're assuming a new coaching staff is not going to touch the offense. That's a lot to assume.

I'm hoping they do touch the offense actually. Seeing our smaller, lighter oline get trucked, especially on passing downs, and our franchise QB get trucked shortly thereafter, game after game, I'm not a believer in Mikes version of the zone blocking system. And I think Alfmo will be a great back behind any (good oline). And we all agree wr talent needs to be added. So there's plenty of touching required on offense and defense.

This notion recently sprung up that our offense good to go, this same offense that could only score 3 points in a half against the lowly Vikings, already has my ass twitching.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm hoping they do touch the offense actually. Seeing our smaller, lighter oline get trucked, especially on passing downs, and our franchise QB get trucked shortly thereafter, game after game, I'm not a believer in Mikes version of the zone blocking system. And I think Alfmo will be a great back behind any (good oline). And we all agree wr talent needs to be added. So there's plenty of touching required on offense and defense.

This notion recently sprung up that our offense good to go, this same offense that could only score 3 points in a half against the lowly Vikings, already has my ass twitching.

If we had even a middle of the pack D we would be much better off right now.

The offense is top 10 in yards and points.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm hoping they do touch the offense actually. Seeing our smaller, lighter oline get trucked, especially on passing downs, and our franchise QB get trucked shortly thereafter, game after game, I'm not a believer in Mikes version of the zone blocking system. And I think Alfmo will be a great back behind any (good oline). And we all agree wr talent needs to be added. So there's plenty of touching required on offense and defense.

This notion recently sprung up that our offense good to go, this same offense that could only score 3 points in a half against the lowly Vikings, already has my ass twitching.

This is such a ridiculously retarded post that I can't comment on what you suggest with a straight face. Let's get rid of RGIII....LOL!!! Which brings me to my next point, kids, don't do drugs.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

This is such a ridiculously retarded post that I can't comment on what you suggest with a straight face. Let's get rid of RGIII....LOL!!! Which brings me to my next point, kids, don't do drugs.

Usually just add schmuck like you to my ignore list and move on, but in this case I'm responding because there's absolutely nothing about what I said to indicate getting rid of RG.

Changing the offense to protect him for the long term, absolutely.

So long.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Usually just add schmuck like you to my ignore list and move on, but in this case I'm responding because there's absolutely nothing about what I said to indicate getting rid of RG.

Changing the offense to protect him for the long term, absolutely.

So long.

I went back and re-read your post. I apologize. Your use of "trucked" to me meant getting rid of. As in "trucking something out of town". That's where I assumed you meant getting rid of RGIII. But I'll say, it's not logical to complain about Mike's Zone Blocking scheme when it actually has been working. Alfred Morris rushing for over 1600 yards last year, and having another impressive year this year - the scheme is working fine. It's pass protection that's the issue, and that's coming from a lack in talent all across the line, not the scheme. These guys excel in run blocking, but not in pass blocking.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Not necessarily. Not necessarily at all, really. I mean after three seasons it'll be a different roster, but that's to be expected anyway.

A decent coach will look to use the talent already here, and of course add to it. A smart coach will use the talent already here better than it's used now, plus add more talent.

I don't think a new coach automatically has a priority to blow up the roster and try to remake the team into something different over night. Just because it's Shanny's way of operating doesn't mean the next guy takes the same approach, and that's a good thing!

Unless you want to hire a figurehead like Zorn, a new coach always brings a new philosophy in terms of systems, personnel and team building. Look at when Denver got rid of Shanahan. McDaniels takes over and wastes no time getting rid of Cutler and later Marshall.

You can't assume a new coach is going to take over and just ride with what we've got. More often than not significant changes happen.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Unless you want to hire a figurehead like Zorn, a new coach always brings a new philosophy in terms of systems, personnel and team building. Look at when Denver got rid of Shanahan. McDaniels takes over and wastes no time getting rid of Cutler and later Marshall.

You can't assume a new coach is going to take over and just ride with what we've got. More often than not significant changes happen.

Kind of interesting that you cite two regime changes where the newcomer blows it up, and struggles mightily. I guess for you it's got to be all or nothing? Couldn't be a situation like Harbaugh in SF, Carroll in Seattle, Gruden who we see every week on the boobtube or the myriad other coaches who've taken a team with talent and made it better.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Kind of interesting that you cite two regime changes where the newcomer blows it up, and struggles mightily. I guess for you it's got to be all or nothing? Couldn't be a situation like Harbaugh in SF, Carroll in Seattle, Gruden who we see every week on the boobtube or the myriad other coaches who've taken a team with talent and made it better.

It might be an extreme example, but still, you can't rule it out. When new coaches come in it's usually because a lot is broken and the last guy couldn't get it right.

What did Carroll take over in Seattle exactly? They were a mess when he got there coming off 9 wins in 2 years.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It might be an extreme example, but still, you can't rule it out. When new coaches come in it's usually because a lot is broken and the last guy couldn't get it right.

What did Carroll take over in Seattle exactly? They were a mess when he got there coming off 9 wins in 2 years.

Carroll

a) added talent to an already talented team to make it a contender in three seasons

b) built a contender from nothing in three seasons

c) something between choices a or b

My answer: hire the next Pete Carroll for HC.

He's out there somewhere...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Carroll

a) added talent to an already talented team to make it a contender in three seasons

b) built a contender from nothing in three seasons

c) something between choices a or b

My answer: hire the next Pete Carroll for HC.

He's out there somewhere...

Carroll turned that roster over very effectively, and very quickly.

I just don't agree they had much talent to begin with, he pretty much gutted that team. If anything you should give him more credit for really putting his stamp on them. He's also one of the few guys in the league along with Shanahan that has almost total control. I thought you weren't a fan of that setup?

Pete Carroll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On the morning of January 9, 2010, Carroll reportedly came to agreement with the Seahawks on a 5-year contract that would appoint him as head coach.[69] He was officially hired as the Seahawks head coach on January 11.[44] He was also named executive vice president of football operations, effectively making him the Seahawks' general manager as well. While the Seahawks have a general manager in John Schneider, he serves mainly in an advisory role to Carroll, who has the final say in football matters. In fact, Schneider was actually hired by Carroll--a rare case of the head coach hiring the general manager. He is one of four current NFL coaches who also have the title or powers of general manager, along with the Patriots' Bill Belichick, Washington Redskins' Mike Shanahan and Kansas City Chiefs Andy Reid.

In his first season, Carroll almost completely overturned the Seahawks roster, totaling over 200 transactions in the course of only one season. However, these moves paved the way for a 4–2 start to the 2010 season.