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[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

I don't think McC is planning on this taking two years. He's probably looking at closer to 4-5 years.

He better plan on a quick (2 or 3 year) turnaround, because McC will not have a job if it takes 4 or 5 years. If they spend wisely, and draft wisely, the Redskins can be good in 2 years.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

He better plan on a quick (2 or 3 year) turnaround, because McC will not have a job if it takes 4 or 5 years. If they spend wisely, and draft wisely, the Redskins can be good in 2 years.

who was the last personnel guy that Snyder only gave 2-3 years. Sometimes I don't get how perception outweighs reality.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

who was the last personnel guy that Snyder only gave 2-3 years. Sometimes I don't get how perception outweighs reality.

Bruce Allen

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Bruce Allen

Bruce Allen has been here 5 years and he has been involved with personnel in all of them.

The real question is if McC can make it 5 years. He didn't in previous stops.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Bruce Allen

???? Pretty sure Allen still is involved and has had more than 4 years with the team.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

???? Pretty sure Allen still is involved and has had more than 4 years with the team.

Shanahan was in charge of personnel moves

Allen has been demoted from making any more disastrous personnel moves

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Allen has been demoted from making any more disastrous personnel moves

He still wasn't fired or outright released. He was not removed from salary cap issues as far as we know. How long did he give Shanahan? How long was VC involved, and Gibbs before that? Part of the reason fans misery has gone on so long is because after his first few years of quick firings, he has tended to let people stay one year to long.

But whatever, all this is moot if Scot McC starts effectively bringing talent in through the draft or FA.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Shanahan was in charge of personnel moves

Allen has been demoted from making any more disastrous personnel moves

Bruce was involved with personnel while Shanahan was here. Although it was announced that Shanahan did personnel alone (just as it was announced with McC), that proved to be untrue.

The team announcing that Allen is not involved with personnel and Allen actually not being involved with personnel have proved to be two different things.

edit: I apologize for the double post. I had a strange browser fart.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Shanahan was in charge of personnel moves

Allen has been demoted from making any more disastrous personnel moves

Bruce was involved with personnel while Shanahan was here. Although it was announced that Shanahan did personnel alone (just as it was announced with McC), that proved to be untrue.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

who was the last personnel guy that Snyder only gave 2-3 years. Sometimes I don't get how perception outweighs reality.

Snyder gave full control to Schottenheimer. Took it back after one year. Gave full control to Cerratto in 2008. Gave it to Shanny after two years (justifiably, still 2-3 years). Gave Allen control after firing Shanny. Now giving it to McCloughan after one year.

All this is not counting Snyder being a habitual meddler. But Danny Boy has gone through head personnel guys nearly as fast as he has gone through head coaches.