In Scot we trust?

[MTK]

All I know is the Redskins of old were perennial last place finishers in the division. We've definitely made progress under McCloughan but there's plenty more work to do.

I'm really not sure what anyone expected after just 2 seasons, but back to back winning seasons is a good start and something I'm sure all of you would have signed on for at the start.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

All I know is the Redskins of old were perennial last place finishers in the division. We've definitely made progress under McCloughan but there's plenty more work to do.

I'm really not sure what anyone expected after just 2 seasons, but back to back winning seasons is a good start and something I'm sure all of you would have signed on for at the start.

This.
We are one missed field goal, 2 bad throws and one drive allowed from being 12 - 4. Not saying we deserve to be 12 and 4, but we are getting there.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

This.
We are one missed field goal, 2 bad throws and one drive allowed from being 12 - 4. Not saying we deserve to be 12 and 4, but we are getting there.

That is true,but that doesnt change the fact that Scot's pickups and drafting have been mediocre at best.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

That is true,but that doesnt change the fact that Scot's pickups and drafting have been mediocre at best.

And yet we have a winning record on his watch. It's too early to properly grade his drafts.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

All I know is the Redskins of old were perennial last place finishers in the division. We've definitely made progress under McCloughan but there's plenty more work to do.

I'm really not sure what anyone expected after just 2 seasons, but back to back winning seasons is a good start and something I'm sure all of you would have signed on for at the start.

My question here is if you start the season 9-0 but finish at 9-7? Is that really a winning season?

Not trying to piss on anyones Wheaties. But was listening to Pat Kirwan the other day and his theory is "You are as good as your last 4 to 6 games. That is the team you are today. Not who you were at the start of the season, but who you are today." Is 2-4 a more accurate reflection? Or is 8-7-1?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

My question here is if you start the season 9-0 but finish at 9-7? Is that really a winning season?

Not trying to piss on anyones Wheaties. But was listening to Pat Kirwan the other day and his theory is "You are as good as your last 4 to 6 games. That is the team you are today. Not who you were at the start of the season, but who you are today." Is 2-4 a more accurate reflection? Or is 8-7-1?

We started 0 and 2.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

My question here is if you start the season 9-0 but finish at 9-7? Is that really a winning season?

Not trying to piss on anyones Wheaties. But was listening to Pat Kirwan the other day and his theory is "You are as good as your last 4 to 6 games. That is the team you are today. Not who you were at the start of the season, but who you are today." Is 2-4 a more accurate reflection? Or is 8-7-1?

9-7 last year and won four straight to end the year. We definitely stunk it up a few times this year on the way out, but I think we're a much improved team over the 2015 version. Not sure I buy that theory by Pat...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

My question here is if you start the season 9-0 but finish at 9-7? Is that really a winning season?



Not trying to piss on anyones Wheaties. But was listening to Pat Kirwan the other day and his theory is "You are as good as your last 4 to 6 games. That is the team you are today. Not who you were at the start of the season, but who you are today." Is 2-4 a more accurate reflection? Or is 8-7-1?

Yes more wins than losses equals a winning season, it's simple math.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yes more wins than losses equals a winning season, it's simple math.

You forget - he is a Dallas fan.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yes more wins than losses equals a winning season, it's simple math.

C'mon? Be serious now. Your just looking at my avatar and trying to write sh*t off.

But you know and I know as well as anyone else knows that if a team, any team, starts a season off 9-0 and finishes 0-7 there will be coaches looking for jobs. Even a head coach. Sure 9-7 is a 'winning season' by simple math. But that 0-7 finish is a coffin nail.

Someone in Landover agress. Washington was in first place in the division for a short time this season. Then they finish 2-4 and the entire defensive staff gets fired.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

C'mon? Be serious now. Your just looking at my avatar and trying to write sh*t off.

But you know and I know as well as anyone else knows that if a team, any team, starts a season off 9-0 and finishes 0-7 there will be coaches looking for jobs. Even a head coach. Sure 9-7 is a 'winning season' by simple math. But that 0-7 finish is a coffin nail.

Someone in Landover agress. Washington was in first place in the division for a short time this season. Then they finish 2-4 and the entire defensive staff gets fired.

Your talking about several things now and seems like your digging. Defense kinda been questionable since Barry took the reigns.

But whatever you have to tell yourself that the Skins aren't getting better, feel free. But the facts remain winning seasons back to back...couple division titles since 2012...this feeling of stability throughout the organization and throughout the league is pretty obvious.

I actually believe the Skins, Cowboys and Giants are pretty much evenly matched. Not a lot of separation. Eagles got some work to do, but overall the East is back.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Your talking about several things now and seems like your digging. Defense kinda been questionable since Barry took the reigns.

But whatever you have to tell yourself that the Skins aren't getting better, feel free. But the facts remain winning seasons back to back...couple division titles since 2012...this feeling of stability throughout the organization and throughout the league is pretty obvious.

I actually believe the Skins, Cowboys and Giants are pretty much evenly matched. Not a lot of separation. Eagles got some work to do, but overall the East is back.

I did not say that the 'Skins are not getting better. I did not say they got any worse, nor that they are status quo. All I asked (I did NOT say). But I asked a fargin' question. You guys have never given a crap about what I think anyway. So that is why I asked a question.

Question I asked is whether 8-7-1 is more indicative of who you are today or is 2-4?

Lets look at it another way. Would you rather have finished the last 6 weeks of season at 4-2 to be at 8-7-1? Or 2-4 and finish at 8-7-1?

And yes and concur. Put the rest of the league on notice, the NFC Beast is back.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I did not say that the 'Skins are not getting better. I did not say they got any worse, nor that they are status quo. All I asked (I did NOT say). But I asked a fargin' question. You guys have never given a crap about what I think anyway. So that is why I asked a question.



Question I asked is whether 8-7-1 is more indicative of who you are today or is 2-4?



Lets look at it another way. Would you rather have finished the last 6 weeks of season at 4-2 to be at 8-7-1? Or 2-4 and finish at 8-7-1?



And yes and concur. Put the rest of the league on notice, the NFC Beast is back.

Who cares when you win games? There are so many contributing factors. Injuries, suspensions (like Trents), etc etc. Who gives a crap about only the last few weeks? Like someone else asked you "do you consider Dallas a .500 team because they finished the year 2-2. If you lose next week 2-3?
Your question about how you gauge a team based on their finish cannot exclude your team? So either we are coming off a winning season, or (if you lose) we are both losers?
And just for the record you are not a troll imo and I do care what you have to say. Same as Giant one and Honolulu Blue.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I did not say that the 'Skins are not getting better. I did not say they got any worse, nor that they are status quo. All I asked (I did NOT say). But I asked a fargin' question. You guys have never given a crap about what I think anyway. So that is why I asked a question.

Question I asked is whether 8-7-1 is more indicative of who you are today or is 2-4?

Lets look at it another way. Would you rather have finished the last 6 weeks of season at 4-2 to be at 8-7-1? Or 2-4 and finish at 8-7-1?

And yes and concur. Put the rest of the league on notice, the NFC Beast is back.

Back to back winning seasons (C-O-N-S-I-S-T-E-N-C-Y) with a talented core of players clearly has the Skins what they actually are 8-7-1. Like I said, your reaching, wanting to believe.

Keep chasing those fucking windmills, Don Quixote. You understand that, or you need more help explaining the analogy?

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

C'mon? Be serious now. Your just looking at my avatar and trying to write sh*t off.

But you know and I know as well as anyone else knows that if a team, any team, starts a season off 9-0 and finishes 0-7 there will be coaches looking for jobs. Even a head coach. Sure 9-7 is a 'winning season' by simple math. But that 0-7 finish is a coffin nail.

Someone in Landover agress. Washington was in first place in the division for a short time this season. Then they finish 2-4 and the entire defensive staff gets fired.

typical uneducated cowboys fan, you don't even realize that your own team was in first place wire to wire this year. Go somewhere else peddle your stupidity.