The Season Is Over

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by x44x

we will make the playoffs. it will happen. joe gibbs knows how to fix things.

God bless your postive thinking!!!!!!!! We need more Skins fans like you!!!!!!!!1

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Well I know when the Reskins were 5-6 last season I had already put a fork in them.

I for one, do not make the same mistakes twice. If the Redskins are mathematically in it, then they always make a late season run.

you are the only Dallas fan I like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[That Guy]

it'd be hard to go 8-2 with this schedule :/. it's like 2000 all over. hit the play-offs, get excited, go out and waste money on bad players while ditching draft picks for fear of them being icky. I mean, gibbs will probably go 4-0 in december (he always does), but the margin for error is so much lower than last year, and the schedule is harder.

chemistry matters, motivation matters, talent matters. I'm not sure we have any of the first two, or enough of the last one.


oh yeah, and the colts got a steal by turning a 2nd rounder into a top notch DT. that's what a good FO does. address their needs BEFORE they start creating problems costing them games. that's the same FO that drafted most of that colts team... hmm... drafting players... there's a thought.

maybe peyton will stub his toe and decide to sit this one out.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by That Guy

oh yeah, and the colts got a steal by turning a 2nd rounder into a top notch DT. that's what a good FO does. address their needs BEFORE they start creating problems costing them games. that's the same FO that drafted most of that colts team... hmm... drafting players... there's a thought.

Hate to say it, but the situation we have with the player-personnel decision making is similar to the Bengals before Marvin Lewis got there. As I understand it, there was one person who worked as a scout for Cincinnati, in addition to ancient workout rooms -- it turned out to be the tell-tale signs of a dysfunctional franchise. Now make no mistake, Snyder and Cooke before him spared no expense to have top-notch training facilities and to furnish the team and its headquarters with whatever they wanted. That's not what I'm talking about.

The archaic situation during the days of gloom in Cincinnati is a mirror image of this team and its current structure for evaluating talent and player acquisition. That is to say, it consists of Dan Snyder's wishes, and the limits of his bank account.

And this is something I thought would surely change once Joe Gibbs restored order to this franchise. Instead, he bought into this notion hook, line, and sinker -- that whatever problem this team faces can be solved by the movement of Dan Snyder's pen to his checkbook. Instead of well-reasoned, astute observations and studies by a football professionals who know what they're doing, we get recklessness, and the throwing of free agent heymakers, hoping one of them will hit.

Until that structure changes, this team will never succeed. And as That Guy said, there's going to be more 2000-like seasons to come.

[chris36]

Mny teams have never been to the super bowl, many teams dont even try. At least here in Washington, Snyder tries . The last time he brought a winner to DC was last year, so stop sounding like a bitch.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by chris36

Mny teams have never been to the super bowl, many teams dont even try. At least here in Washington, Snyder tries . The last time he brought a winner to DC was last year, so stop sounding like a bitch.

Oh yeah, how dare I question the personnel moves in the seven years Snyder has owned the team, what with all of the Lombardi trophies he's collected.

And try not to be an asshole.

[chris36]

Sorry buddy, but I had to tell myself the same thing I told you. Look, many owner could care less if they win or lose. We have an owner that will do anything he can to bring us a winner.. Although he has not, I love him for trying. I am sure he will get it right someday. There are many teams in pro sports that dont care.

[Beemnseven]

I know of one owner who gets accused of 'not caring' -- Bill Bidwell of the Cardinals. But who knows? Nobody can get inside the man's head. It could just be that he happens to be the owner of a franchise that's certifiably doomed. Everybody else? They either give everything they've got to get to the Super Bowl, or it's their jobs.

I know Snyder tries. And for a time, I admired him for that. But now, its starting to look like the way a drunk tries to sing at a karyoke bar. We know he's trying real hard, but after a while it gets annoying.

[chris36]

He will get there. He brought Joe Back, did'nt he.

[50-GUT]

EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE A DRINK AND CHILL...

I know everyone here had big expectations for the season, but it's just not gonna happen. We're just not that good. It SUCKS.. deal with it. I for one gave the season a funeral after going 0-2 and 0-4 in the preseason. The writing has been on the wall since late August. It was just that the marketing engine was all fired up and nobody wanted to hear it. They duped me.. they duped all of us! Now that we are finally approaching mathematical elimination everyone is freaking out, and I totally understand that... its just I came to the grim conclusion some time ago.

Here's what I've seen happen:

The defense has been stripped of too much talent, and its beginning to show. Our secondary has been gutted through Free Agency and now injuries... the LB's look totally confused, can't play zone, don't set tempo, and for some reason forgot how to hit BAMAS in the mouth! The DT's that have never produced much pass rush, but could always stuff the run are now springing leaks... And then there's the DE's... well sometimes I wonder how they show up Mondays to grab their paycheck.

The offense is meak and won't get better until we have a QB under center that can execute Al Saunders offense. We need a guy that can convert 3rd downs and make plays when its not perfectly there. For all we know, Jason Campbell might not have the goods either. I wasn't exactly enamoured with his preaseason work. Sometimes I have a sneaking suspicion that he could be a bust too... Why hasn't he stepped up and taken the job from Mark yet? If he isn't blowing Brunell away in practice then we got problems.

Its a giant SH!T SANDWICH... anybody hungry?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by chris36

Mny teams have never been to the super bowl, many teams dont even try. At least here in Washington, Snyder tries . The last time he brought a winner to DC was last year, so stop sounding like a bitch.

oh yeah? i must have misread that 2005 lombardi that said "steelers" on it then. trying is nice, but how about building instead? it's hard to get somewhere when you don't know where you're going. Right now this team found success and then kinda blew it up with a get rich quick scheme to win a superbowl. only this time the money was wasted on young crappy players instead of old crappy players :/.

maybe h's trying to win, maybe he's just trying to sell ads and merch :P

[vaoutlaws2006]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

GODDAMN IT!

does any one know where mark brunell lives?

somewhere between here and suckville.

[vaoutlaws2006]

Originally Posted by chris36

Mny teams have never been to the super bowl, many teams dont even try. At least here in Washington, Snyder tries . The last time he brought a winner to DC was last year, so stop sounding like a bitch.

thats funny. he tries in the wrong ways. how soon we forget the 2000 season. we need a real general manager. as far as gibbs being a guy to evaluate talent...ive got two words for you desmond howard. gibbs is a great coach...but not a general manager. and i still hold firm in my belief that it was snyder and cerrato who wanted all of these free agents this past off season. went to the playoffs in 1999 and 2004 with teams that didnt have allstar rosters on paper and we add a bunch of over priced players to our team and look what happens. You do the math on how great of an owner dan snyder is. he sucks.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by vaoutlaws2006

thats funny. he tries in the wrong ways. how soon we forget the 2000 season. we need a real general manager. as far as gibbs being a guy to evaluate talent...ive got two words for you desmond howard. gibbs is a great coach...but not a general manager. and i still hold firm in my belief that it was snyder and cerrato who wanted all of these free agents this past off season. went to the playoffs in 1999 and 2004 with teams that didnt have allstar rosters on paper and we add a bunch of over priced players to our team and look what happens. You do the math on how great of an owner dan snyder is. he sucks.

Don't worry, guys like you along with the media won't let us forget 2000.

That was 6 years ago you know.

Snyder just writes the checks now. I find it hard to place much blame with him. He's giving the coaches what they want, hard to hate on that.

[vaoutlaws2006]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Don't worry, guys like you along with the media won't let us forget 2000.

That was 6 years ago you know.

Snyder just writes the checks now. I find it hard to place much blame with him. He's giving the coaches what they want, hard to hate on that.

you honestly let yourself believe that? snyder has a heck of alot more input than what is really known. yes it was 6 years ago but funny we are in the same boat again. very poor decision making by the skins front office. which includes first snyder, cerrato and gibbs. we need a real gm. there are no if ands or buts about it.