Iran Supplying Weapons to Iraq?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't care if they're hypocritical when they're doing things that protect our troops.

If they get mad at Iran for supplying bombs that might kill our troops, I'm OK with that. I'm also OK with it if they have supplied technology/equipment in the past if it meant that it weakened our enemies in the past.

If Iran is going to do this crap, it's an act of war in my opinion. I think we ought to be thinking about launching some long range missile strikes from our ships in the gulf at all of their military installations and potential nuclear facilities.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. The problem arises when our actions today affect the safety of our troops and our country tomorrow. We gave weapons to the taliban and Osama bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union. That didn't work out too well. We also supported the Iranian revolution which probably didn't help our image in Iran.

Now Iran does the EXACT same thing we did in the past, and everyone is up in arms about it. That's not cool. We just need to quit sticking our noses into everyone else's business.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I guess your refering to us supplying Iraq with weapons when they were at war with Iran. At the time we had no beef with Iraq only Iran (remember the US hostages in Iran). I'm not sure what Nation was supplying Iran but we did not want them to expand their country and need Iraq to win or at least stop them. I guess with a little hine site it would have been best if they just wiped each other off the map.

I was actually referring to Afghanistan and Iran, but there are countless instances. Iraq is also a good example.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Care to elaborate? Why is it the last thing we need to do?

To me it's as simple as we're already mired in a war in Iraq, Congress is opposed to troop escalation, we have few if any allies left to support us at this point.

Unless we first take some political action, which is unlikely to happen, I just don't see us pointing missles at Iran at this point.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I was actually referring to Afghanistan and Iran, but there are countless instances. Iraq is also a good example.

I never knew we supplied weapons to either of them how many years back are you going?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I never knew we supplied weapons to either of them how many years back are you going?

1980 or so. Cold War efforts.

[Hog1]

No action anywhere in the world by us=9/11 once a month

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

To me it's as simple as we're already mired in a war in Iraq, Congress is opposed to troop escalation, we have few if any allies left to support us at this point.

Unless we first take some political action, which is unlikely to happen, I just don't see us pointing missles at Iran at this point.

OK then, how do you propose we stop Iran from killing our troops in Iraq?

Or are you OK with letting this happen?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Hog1

No action anywhere in the world by us=9/11 once a month

That may be dramatic, but I totally get your point.

These people want to kill us whether we come back home or whether we fight them overseas. They have a war mentality. Just because we withdraw, or "keep our noses out of others' business", doesn't mean they won't try to kill us.

It's a WAR.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

OK then, how do you propose we stop Iran from killing our troops in Iraq?

Or are you OK with letting this happen?

Dude, of course not. Look, if we're scratching our collective heads right now over Iraq, can't agree on how to get out or when to get out for that matter. This makes the situation in Iran super complicated.

First thing I think we should do is somehow get more international support and involvement. Although we don't have the best relations with Iran, other countries may be able to mediate somehow.

Another question is, exactly how are the weapons getting into the country? Is there a way we can cut off the flow of arsenal into to Iraq without directly engaging in military action?

[saden1]

I don't see you mofos signing up to serve and here you are advocating we open up another front to a war already going very badly. It's easy to say, it's a lot harder to do.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

1980 or so. Cold War efforts.

Ok, your saying we provided Iran in the 80's weapons when in 1981 they were holding 63 US citizens hostage? That does not make one bit of sense they where our enemy at this time. I think your thinking of us supplying Iraq with weapons as they where fight Iran in the 80's and we did not want Iran taking over Iraq. We wanted to keep them from growing in that part of the world and as a nation.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by saden1

I don't see you mofos signing up to server and here you are advocating we open up another front to a war already going very badly. It's easy to say, it's a lot harder to do.

Exactly.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Ok, your saying we provided Iran in the 80's weapons when in 1981 they were holding 63 US citizens hostage? That does not make one bit of sense they where our enemy at this time. I think your thinking of us supplying Iraq with weapons as they where fight Iran in the 80's and we did not want Iran taking over Iraq. We wanted to keep them from growing in that part of the world and as a nation.

I meant to Afghanistan around 1980. That was about the time when the Russians were occupying Afghanistan.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

That may be dramatic, but I totally get your point.

These people want to kill us whether we come back home or whether we fight them overseas. They have a war mentality. Just because we withdraw, or "keep our noses out of others' business", doesn't mean they won't try to kill us.

It's a WAR.

True, a little dramatic.
I think the mistake many Americans, Europeans tend to make is the desire to make all this make sense. It doesn't. I try to ply my American values of live, and let live, do unto others.....etc. to this situation, and guess what. It does not compute. The idea that another race/country, countries wants to kill me, my family, my people (Americans) is ridiculous, outrageous!!!! Does this really exist? Hell, yes. Moreover, by their acts, they have proven to be relentless and ruthless hunters wanting nothing more from their lives than to take part in the ultimate violence against there enemies..........us, and those like us. It's wierd, but that seems to be all they understand. I do not condemn all muslims, or all of anybody. I do think ALL muslims and anyone else that fits that "profile" bear closer scrutiny in airport security than someone's 84 year old Irish mom. Is that a violation of someone elses civil rights? Racial Profiling? Who cares. When Irish old ladies start bombing the next tower wherever, I want them profiled, and searched accordingly. The rules changed Sepember 11, 2001. If we allow it, political correctness will kill us all

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Care to elaborate? Why is it the last thing we need to do?

Putin voiced his opinion of this recently. Saying basically how since the US reacts with military firepower rather than different channels which in turn forces other countries build up their arms and weaponry. I think his perception of how the US handles certain international issues may coincide with a few other countries. This could become a case of the schoolyard bully being ganged up on by all of the kids he picked on in years past.