Lloyd Comments to the Junks

[MTK]

I can't wait til this guy is wearing another uniform. I really can't wait.

I'm tired of hearing his comments and at the same time seeing zero production. Catch some balls and he can start talking.

[RobH4413]

I'm sick of hearing about Lloyd. His production/attention ratio is off the charts.

He will not be in Washington next season, and I wonder if he'll be anywhere else.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I'm sick of hearing about Lloyd. His production/attention ratio is off the charts.

He will not be in Washington next season, and I wonder if he'll be anywhere else.

He will be in New England, or Indianapolis catching TD's, his mouth is what has kept him from endearing himself to Gibbs, I just don't think Gibbs wants anything to do with him at this point, and I wouldn't blame it all on Lloyd, I think if they focused him in the passing game he would be very productive, but I get the feeling Gibbs would rather get that production from others. I get the feeling he shot his mouth off last year about our passing game or lack there of, which probably ticked Gibbs off, so as long as you have WR's like ARL, and Moss, there's no need to throw Lloyd into the game plan, although with the lack of ability Moss has shown to catch a simple pass this season Gibbs has to be close to increasing Lloyds playing time. Mcardell is a nice addition but he's not a #2, same goes for Thrash, Lloyd is if used properly. There is I believe a real pissing match going on right now between Gibbs and Lloyd and Lloyd ain't winning that one, at least not in DC.

[Hijinx]

How much dead cap space is that guy going to cost the team next year?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by offiss

He will be in New England, or Indianapolis catching TD's, his mouth is what has kept him from endearing himself to Gibbs, I just don't think Gibbs wants anything to do with him at this point, and I wouldn't blame it all on Lloyd, I think if they focused him in the passing game he would be very productive, but I get the feeling Gibbs would rather get that production from others. I get the feeling he shot his mouth off last year about our passing game or lack there of, which probably ticked Gibbs off, so as long as you have WR's like ARL, and Moss, there's no need to throw Lloyd into the game plan, although with the lack of ability Moss has shown to catch a simple pass this season Gibbs has to be close to increasing Lloyds playing time. Mcardell is a nice addition but he's not a #2, same goes for Thrash, Lloyd is if used properly. There is I believe a real pissing match going on right now between Gibbs and Lloyd and Lloyd ain't winning that one, at least not in DC.

Why would NE or Indy want a crappy receicer with an attitude problem?

They build their teams on undervalued talent, not overvalued crap.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Why would NE or Indy want a crappy receicer with an attitude problem?

They build their teams on undervalued talent, not overvalued crap.

LOL! Calling Lloyd overvalued crap is a compliment in my book.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Why would NE or Indy want a crappy receiver with an attitude problem?

They build their teams on undervalued talent, not overvalued crap.

Take a look, did they go after Moss? Yes! Why because when you have an offense that can utilize your talents it tends to keep players in check, there's not a whole lot to have an attitude about, funny the only thing anyone heard from Moss this season is TD.

Lloyd wasnt a lousy WR before he came to us, and he looks to be in the best shape of his life at this point. Fans just can't admit that it may not always be the player it could very well be the coaching and the players around them, or in other words the team that they are so endeared to!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by offiss

Lloyd wasnt a lousy WR before he came to us, and he looks to be in the best shape of his life at this point. Fans just can't admit that it may not always be the player it could very well be the coaching and the players around them, or in other words the team that they are so endeared to!

Exactly, because all of us fans just imagined him loafing after an interception that he could have prevented. It's not like he admitted to it or anything.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by offiss

Lloyd wasnt a lousy WR before he came to us, and he looks to be in the best shape of his life at this point. Fans just can't admit that it may not always be the player it could very well be the coaching and the players around them, or in other words the team that they are so endeared to!

Maybe Lloyd wasn't "lousy," but he was never that great. Put his numbers up against any #1 WR in the league and he pales in comparison. His production at San Francisco and his production here puts him squarely as a #2, and even there he doesn't match up with guys like Reggie Wayne, TJ Houshmandzadeh or any of a number of other #2 WRs in the league.

He's athletic and probably has great potential, but his stats through his first four seasons in the NFL simply do not bear out that he's much of anything at this point. His highest total in a season is 733 yards and hasn't caught more than six TDs in a season. It's not like he had a real standout season at one point and we're all hoping he will reach that level again. He's never BEEN at the level before.

Hell, through his first four years Lloyd has 13 TDs. There are a number of WRs in this league who put up those numbers in a single season, not four. If he wants to get paid like a bigshot WR, and talk like a bigshot WR, he better start putting up some stats or just shut his mouth and take a much smaller paycheck.

Anyone arguing that Lloyd is a top-flight WR and is being held back by coaches, trainers, bad circumstances, a poor diet, the janitor who looked askance at him or his homophobia is simply basing it on conjecture and hope because his statistical production proves otherwise.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Maybe Lloyd wasn't "lousy," but he was never that great. Put his numbers up against any #1 WR in the league and he pales in comparison. His production at San Francisco and his production here puts him squarely as a #2, and even there he doesn't match up with guys like Reggie Wayne, TJ Houshmandzadeh or any of a number of other #2 WRs in the league.

He's athletic and probably has great potential, but his stats through his first four seasons in the NFL simply do not bear out that he's much of anything at this point. His highest total in a season is 733 yards and hasn't caught more than six TDs in a season. It's not like he had a real standout season at one point and we're all hoping he will reach that level again. He's never BEEN at the level before.

Hell, through his first four years Lloyd has 13 TDs. There are a number of WRs in this league who put up those numbers in a single season, not four. If he wants to get paid like a bigshot WR, and talk like a bigshot WR, he better start putting up some stats or just shut his mouth and take a much smaller paycheck.

Anyone arguing that Lloyd is a top-flight WR and is being held back by coaches, trainers, bad circumstances, a poor diet, the janitor who looked askance at him or his homophobia is simply basing it on conjecture and hope because his statistical production proves otherwise.

You site receivers who have all pro QB's, something Lloyd has not come close to, what were Randy Moss's stats last season without a QB? Oakland said he had a chronic knee problem and is not the WR he used to be, I guess they were right he's better than he used to be, the question is why? Could it be the team and the QB? So if there is nothing there in Lloyd why did Gibbs have to have this guy? Sorry but playing in an inept system like San fran, and then coming over to us only to have the likes of Brunell throwing to him doesn't make him a bust, every time I see the guy he's beating his man down field. If you want to say he doesn't fit in, then fine, because that pretty much seems to be whats going on here, but he can't throw the ball to himself.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by offiss

He will be in New England, or Indianapolis catching TD's, his mouth is what has kept him from endearing himself to Gibbs, I just don't think Gibbs wants anything to do with him at this point, and I wouldn't blame it all on Lloyd, I think if they focused him in the passing game he would be very productive, but I get the feeling Gibbs would rather get that production from others. I get the feeling he shot his mouth off last year about our passing game or lack there of, which probably ticked Gibbs off, so as long as you have WR's like ARL, and Moss, there's no need to throw Lloyd into the game plan, although with the lack of ability Moss has shown to catch a simple pass this season Gibbs has to be close to increasing Lloyds playing time. Mcardell is a nice addition but he's not a #2, same goes for Thrash, Lloyd is if used properly. There is I believe a real pissing match going on right now between Gibbs and Lloyd and Lloyd ain't winning that one, at least not in DC.

You might be on to something here. I say get him in there if he can help us win. He seems to be getting open the few times they have went to him. Bottom line is we need Lloyd right now. As sorry as he is and has been we need him to produce cause we are not scoring enough points.

No way he is on NE next year. Their number one pick from last year, Chad Jackson can't even get on the field. Lloyd will be a full time rapper next year.