What angers us most about Sean Taylors death

[Daseal]

They need them for their own protection because they live criminal lifestyles. SO they need a gun because the homeowner they're trying to rob might legally own a gun for legitimate self defense? How do you even type that? That argument doesn't hold water with me. You kill someone in their own home, you get executed. Not in 20 years, as soon as you're found guilty. Walk 'em outside and line em up against the wall. I know that's harsh but who deserves our sympathy? The victim or the murderer?

Uh, exactly. Homeowner might own a gun, so I better carry a gun. Listen, I'm not going to go into anyone house and rob it, but if you can't see the line of reasoning behind that, you clearly have something blurred in there. If you're a robber, and don't have a weapon for intimidation, you won't do very well for yourself. It's not something I like, but it's pretty common human nature. You carry a gun when going into dangerous situations. Yes, let's just execute everyone, that's a great idea. Looking at the numbers there are hardly any people found innocent on death row... oh wait. Namely the poor folks who can't afford DNA testing are the ones the end up in jail for life even if they didn't commit the crime. I don't understand this "Lets just toss SOMEBODY in jail!" type mentality. I'd rather have 1000 guilty people set free than one innocent person found guilty.

Sandtrapjack: Do you have a link. I want to know exactly what happened with these guys. You make it sound like they were constantly arrested. I'm not sure I buy it to be honest. These guys are complete losers, no doubt. And deserve the book that the judge will hopefully throw at them. I want these guys locked up, don't get it twisted. However, I don't think they're the hardened criminal you think they are, you keep using words like arrested, charges, etc. I'm not seeing where you say "convicted" anywhere, and that's an important word. When you go into court they can't say "You were suspected of this, thus your penalty will be harsher."

[xkaotikx]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Uh, exactly. Homeowner might own a gun, so I better carry a gun. Listen, I'm not going to go into anyone house and rob it, but if you can't see the line of reasoning behind that, you clearly have something blurred in there. If you're a robber, and don't have a weapon for intimidation, you won't do very well for yourself. It's not something I like, but it's pretty common human nature. You carry a gun when going into dangerous situations. Yes, let's just execute everyone, that's a great idea. Looking at the numbers there are hardly any people found innocent on death row... oh wait. Namely the poor folks who can't afford DNA testing are the ones the end up in jail for life even if they didn't commit the crime. I don't understand this "Lets just toss SOMEBODY in jail!" type mentality. I'd rather have 1000 guilty people set free than one innocent person found guilty.

Sandtrapjack: Do you have a link. I want to know exactly what happened with these guys. You make it sound like they were constantly arrested. I'm not sure I buy it to be honest. These guys are complete losers, no doubt. And deserve the book that the judge will hopefully throw at them. I want these guys locked up, don't get it twisted. However, I don't think they're the hardened criminal you think they are, you keep using words like arrested, charges, etc. I'm not seeing where you say "convicted" anywhere, and that's an important word. When you go into court they can't say "You were suspected of this, thus your penalty will be harsher."

With the age these kids were, I doubt their first instinct was to kill Sean Taylor. They've probably never robbed a house before and weren't expecting to see anyone there. Therefore, they panicked and just shot, without the intention of killing...as they said. I can believe this story, but I don't know about anyone else.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Sandtrapjack: Do you have a link. I want to know exactly what happened with these guys. You make it sound like they were constantly arrested. I'm not sure I buy it to be honest. These guys are complete losers, no doubt. And deserve the book that the judge will hopefully throw at them. I want these guys locked up, don't get it twisted. However, I don't think they're the hardened criminal you think they are, you keep using words like arrested, charges, etc. I'm not seeing where you say "convicted" anywhere, and that's an important word. When you go into court they can't say "You were suspected of this, thus your penalty will be harsher."

Nope no link. Just what is being put out there in the papers. Nothing takes away from the fact that the accused had a criminal background that included burglary, theft and gun related crimes. The ages of the accused indicate that they were juveniles when their previous indiscretions occured. Those records are sealed. So that is why you won't see the word "convicted" in the papers.

Now when they are arraigned in Miami, they will make the decision whther or not to try the juveniles as adults. If that happens, you will see those juvenile records opened and we will see what those previous crimes actually were.

Not to mention that juvenile courts are much easier and less stringent on crimes in the hope of rehabilitaion at a young age.