Report: Shanahan in Talks with Redskins

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I thought I read somewhere that it was Shanahan who told Snyder (per rumors) that Allen would be a good fit. Plus it all sounds like Allen will for the most part be dealing with contractual stuff vs. player aquasition.

Shanahan was contacted back in Oct. I don't doubt that a deal was arranged in regards to him coming in at the end of the season. Plus the reports are Shanahan is trying to assemble a team of coach's or has been calling around. You don't hear that about Gruden.

Lastly I don't think the Rooney Rule states when a HC is fired that's when the interview process starts and a minority has to be interviewed. It has been reported that Dungy was contacted and he turned down the job. Rooney Rule taken care of.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Irish minorities?

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Irish minorities?

Shouldn't you be picking out your X-mas Dress..... whats up Sissy!

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Shouldn't you be picking out your X-mas Dress..... whats up Sissy!

I never knew you cared Sissy!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Irish minorities?

MODS are getting pissed.

I would have taken Dungy over Shanahan though. To bad he declined.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

MODS are getting pissed.

I would have taken Dungy over Shanahan though. To bad he declined.

About what?

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

MODS are getting pissed.

I would have taken Dungy over Shanahan though. To bad he declined.

Why Dungy over Shan?

While I like Tony Dungy, Jim Caldwell has proven b/c you win w/ Peyton Manning it doesn't mean you are necessariy mean you are the best coach in the league.

I like TD and he's a winner everywhere he's been. I guess I just don't like his god awful offenses in TB. His defense...excellent.

Seems to me, Shanahan is more of a complete coach, offense and defense. Just MO.

[47FAN]

how do we know zorn hasnt agreed to take lesser roll there for it opens the headcoaching job up. just a thought

[pg86]

Originally Posted by 47FAN

how do we know zorn hasnt agreed to take lesser roll there for it opens the headcoaching job up. just a thought

I predicted he'd take a demotion We don't know I mean why wouldn't he be the QB coach?

[47FAN]

Originally Posted by pg86

I predicted he'd take a demotion We don't know I mean why wouldn't he be the QB coach?

i have thought the same thing for a couple of weeks now.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 47FAN

how do we know zorn hasnt agreed to take lesser roll there for it opens the headcoaching job up. just a thought

You know I thought the same thing. If Zorn has realized his abilities and perhaps knows he an awsome QB coach but most likely not wanting a HCing gig again, I wonder if he would be retained as QB coach. I imagine it would be a humbling experience to step down but if he played his cards right he would still have a job and more then likely get more respect then he's getting now.

I guess it all depends on if he could humble himself to step down and admit he's a better QB coach. My gut say no and he is gone.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by 47FAN

how do we know zorn hasnt agreed to take lesser roll there for it opens the headcoaching job up. just a thought

I can't ever recall when a head coach has stayed with a team the next year after losing his head coaching role....does anyone know if thats ever happened?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I can't ever recall when a head coach has stayed with a team the next year after losing his head coaching role....does anyone know if thats ever happened?

Didn't one of Dallas's coaches do that? He may have been an interim coach though. Never mind. Dave Campo was HC for the Cowgirls, was let go, went to another team then rejoined the Cowgirls as secondary coach. Don 't know if a HC was let go and stayed with the same team before but I have a feeling whoever becomes our coach will bring in their own people.

[maroonandblack30]

The Rooney Rule is garbage.... no one says we should try out white RBs before we sign a black one....its a freaking joke. The NFL is about winning, if an owner is still dumb enough to NOT hire the best coach for the job regardless of color his record will prove his incompitence. The rule is insulting and demeaning.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

The Rooney Rule is garbage.... no one says we should try out white RBs before we sign a black one....its a freaking joke. The NFL is about winning, if an owner is still dumb enough to NOT hire the best coach for the job regardless of color his record will prove his incompitence. The rule is insulting and demeaning.

How old are you?
The reason I ask is some of the owners are much older than you and I.
They are from an era where discriminating because of race or religion was discreetly being done and behind closed doors was acceptable. The attitude was not necessarily I hate minorities, it was more an attitude of 'I will never have a black GM or coach or QB.' There are certain high visibility/profile positions that were not acceptable to have a minority.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

The Rooney Rule is garbage.... no one says we should try out white RBs before we sign a black one....its a freaking joke. The NFL is about winning, if an owner is still dumb enough to NOT hire the best coach for the job regardless of color his record will prove his incompitence. The rule is insulting and demeaning.

I was thinking the same thing but couldn't put into words.

I often wondered why minorities and non minorities don't get upset about affirmative action. To me it send two negative messages:

1) The Gov. is applying a rule that discriminates against non minorities.

2) It sends a message that minorities can't get a job based on their own qualifications. If I was a minority I think I would be mad that I was given the job solely because the business needed to hire a minority vs. me being better qualified then the other applicants and getting the job due to hard work and diligence.

I do understand that there are lots and lots of instances where minorities are discriminated against because they are a minority, and they don't get the job even though they are the better candidate.

I don't know. I don't mean to piss people off but the message just seems bad. (A) We will discriminate against non minorities in order to correct a wrong against minorities, and (B) The Gov. is calling minorities inferior and making a law to level the playing field. I know the law was put in place to combat discrimination but it should be changed to either protect all americans no matter what color or nationality or eliminate it all together. If we keep the law then tweek it so the business or whoever is punished severely for their discrimination.

but as someone else said ...in the NFL its kinda the old boys club and they would interview the janitor and say we interviewed someone to satisfy the rule instead of actually interviewing a qualified candidate or they would interview a qualified applicant to only give it to who they want to be their next GM or HC. The law only says they have to interview someone not that they have to be qualified or seriously considered.