Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[Kope]

I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football team in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to

[SFREDSKIN]

If only we could have hired Harbaugh instead of Shanahan.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Kope

I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football team in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to

The only problem with this is that grabbing McNabb was the new FO's own prerogative.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Kope

I think what I am thinking is:

we havent had a real football team in DC since Marty left. That was the last time I really felt good about the skins direction as an organization. What I remember from that season was - Darrell Green being called out in Training camp and unhappy vets.

Since then it has been the just a couple of players away mentality.

We havent been able to get a plan together and stick to it long enough to make progress. Saint Joe came back to save the franchise, not (and there is a HUGE difference) to be the best coach he could be. Not that he didnt try relly hard, he just wasnt as commited as he was the first time. OBC and Zorny were horrid and out of thier league...now we have a legit coach who is still very hungry after being canned in Denver. Not that different than Marty.

I guess what I am saying is - this might be the "breaking" we need. This might be the event that really starts to clear the roster and change the culture of the team. I know that right now it looks and effing feels like the same old BS we have lived with....except one thing; as far as I can tell this is based on performance. I am actually glad we are evaluating for next year.

I am however well aware and gunshy of our last 8 years of clownassery that has put us in this position. As the eternal skins optomist I am actually pleased. as a realist I am dreading what this will lead to.

This drivel is what being a skins fan has reduced me to

Very well said. This team needs a fanny-paddling in a fierce way.

For everyone who's "losing faith" in Shanahan, I wonder ... would you seriously prefer to see him fired, keep the locker room intact, and start over again next year with the same players but yet another head coach? Outside of Dan Snyder, there's been one constant for the past 5-6 years or so -- and that's a core of players that has never really lived up to expectations. We have few players who are young with a lot of potential, (Landry, Orakpo, Torain) but apart from them, it's time to move on ...

Everybody else? If he's "lost them," so be it.