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[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Welker didn't do jack in Miami? Ok then.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Manning Is one of the best ever top 10 but he has a losing playoff record and has only won one sb. Bradys playoff record is very good and has won 3 titles and maybe 4 this season sorry but the NFL is about winning and Brady has more than Manning

Reggie Wayne? Marvin Harrison Dallas clark??

#Hail to the Redskins

Seriously guy. Why do you keep ignoring the defenses? I repeat, Tom's Patriots have rocked a top 5 defense each time they went to the Super Bowl. Offense doesn't generally win you Super Bowls, defenses does. Don't act like it doesn't play a part, you know good and god damn well it plays a HUGE part in how far you go.


Wayne also had 500 yard less this year than he did with Manning the prior year. Looks like he's down to being a scrub without Peyton.

Marvin Harrison?
Marvin Harrison, WR at NFL.com

You mean the same Marvin Harrison that didn't do jack shit until Peyton arrived?


Keep on grasping at straws about how this "better talent' he had. :frusty:

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Welker didn't do jack in Miami? Ok then.

Which is why New England traded a 2nd round pick for him.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Absolutely no way. Again, let's look at the defenses. Having a top 5 defense compared to having a bottom 5 defense. It's not even REMOTELY in the same ball park.

Again. The cold hard facts that the Patriots go 11-5 WITHOUT Brady solidifies my argument and pretty much makes yours invalid. The fact the Colts go from a 10-6 playoff team to the #1 draft pick in the NFL also backs up that case.


Hey guys, I guess Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are better QBs than Dan Marino!!! That's pretty much the type of argument you are using.

Yeah, but they went 18-1 the year before with Brady, and he set the single season record for TDs with 50 (breaking Manning's record). If it weren't for mind boggling drops by Brady's receivers, Manning wouldn't even have a ring. He put his team ahead with 2 minutes to go against the Giants in the Super Bowl, and it took one of the biggest circus plays of all time for the Giants to win that game. Brady is clutch while Manning spends 30 seconds each play trying to figure out how he's going to outsmart the Defense, which in the playoffs, has backfired for him. One of his teammates who was not an idiot Kicker even said so.

Brady = Montana
Manning = Marino

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Which is why New England traded a 2nd round pick for him.

Amazing isn't it??

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Your crazy man Brady has never had the talent PM has had at WR and when EJ was his rb not even close.. tom had moss for a couple years that's it. Look at his wr corp and rbs over his 3 that's right 3 super bowl titles

#Hail to the Redskins

Actually on the contrary. All of this time Brady might have had more talent then Peyton. I mean look at what happened to the Colts with Manning out and compare that to how the Patriots did without Brady. Colts ended up with the number 1 pick while the Patriots went 11-5.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Which is why New England traded a 2nd round pick for him.

Compare the stats. New England probably had 3 second round picks that year. 687 yards in Miami and nearly 1200 a year later.

687 yards is JACK SHIT regardless of what New England gave up for him.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yeah, but they went 18-1 the year before with Brady, and he set the single season record for TDs with 50 (breaking Manning's record). If it weren't for mind boggling drops by Brady's receivers, Manning wouldn't even have a ring. He put his team ahead with 2 minutes to go against the Giants in the Super Bowl, and it took one of the biggest circus plays of all time for the Giants to win that game. Brady is clutch while Manning spends 30 seconds each play trying to figure out how he's going to outsmart the Defense, which in the playoffs, has backfired for him. One of his teammates who was not an idiot Kicker even said so.

Brady = Montana
Manning = Marino

Didn't Brady have Moss for those 50 TDs where Moss caught 23 of them? Both are great but I gotta put Manning ahead by a smige.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

Boy, right as I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Tebow being better than I think he is and the fact that he's one of the true role models in the NFL, he goes out and lays this egg. Think Elway is regretting his decision to name Tebow his starting qb next season?

Nah, he wasn't going to beat NE by himself. I say keep building around him. The fact that Denver got as far as they did shouldn't be overlooked.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Didn't Brady have Moss for those 50 TDs where Moss caught 23 of them? Both are great but I gotta put Manning ahead by a smige.

Fair enough, but 36 TDs and only 4TDs without Moss.

Plus, Moss must have not been that good because New England only gave up a 4th round pick to get him.

If Welker is all world because he warranted a 2nd round pick than Moss must not be all that because they only traded a 4th to get him.

Just assuming you're consistent with your logic

[skinsfaninok]

Nc I understand the defense but we are taking qb play here and Tom is as clutch as there's every been, I never said he didn't have a good team I said he didn't have the offensive help pm had and that's just the truth

#Hail to the Redskins

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yeah, but they went 18-1 the year before with Brady, and he set the single season record for TDs with 50 (breaking Manning's record). If it weren't for mind boggling drops by Brady's receivers, Manning wouldn't even have a ring. He put his team ahead with 2 minutes to go against the Giants in the Super Bowl, and it took one of the biggest circus plays of all time for the Giants to win that game. Brady is clutch while Manning spends 30 seconds each play trying to figure out how he's going to outsmart the Defense, which in the playoffs, has backfired for him. One of his teammates who was not an idiot Kicker even said so.

You do realize the year that Manning broke the TD record they actually pulled him in games. They weren't trying to get the record unlike Belicheck and Brady who stayed into the 4th quarter up by 30 and still throwing bombs. Our game in New England should prove my point.

That's the only way he breaks Manning's record, and the most important game of the season and where were those TDs and offense? Nowhere to be found. Choked. The great Tom Brady choked.


Tell me who this player that called out Peyton is. Backfired? Have you seen the numbers that Peyton has accumulated? Looks like it backfired.

Some of you Brady nut huggers are incredible. You refuse to acknowledge that Tom was (still is) on a better team, yet claim that Manning had all the talent even though it's shown that same talent did nothing before or after him. DERP.

I'm done with this.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Actually on the contrary. All of this time Brady might have had more talent then Peyton. I mean look at what happened to the Colts with Manning out and compare that to how the Patriots did without Brady. Colts ended up with the number 1 pick while the Patriots went 11-5.

Again that pats team was loaded and I admitted that but overall pm has had more talent on offense than Tom has or had anyway

#Hail to the Redskins

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Nc I understand the defense but we are taking qb play here and Tom is as clutch as there's every been, I never said he didn't have a good team I said he didn't have the offensive help pm had and that's just the truth

#Hail to the Redskins

How many playoff games has Tom drove in the last few minutes to win the game with a TD? I mean a TD, not a FG via Vinateri.


Didn't have the offensive help even though I showed you that same "help" did NOTHING without him. Still no answer to that.

/facepalm

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Again that pats team was loaded and I admitted that but overall pm has had more talent on offense than Tom has or had anyway

#Hail to the Redskins

You claim the team was loaded, yet say Peyton had ALL the talent. You know how retarded that sounds?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

How many playoff games has Tom drove in the last few minutes to win the game with a TD? I mean a TD, not a FG via Vinateri.


Didn't have the offensive help even though I showed you that same "help" did NOTHING without him. Still no answer to that.

/facepalm

Lmao are we taking about tds or wins?? What's more important here man? Btw what's the head to head record of the two?

#Hail to the Redskins