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Old 12-02-2014, 05:34 PM   #1
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Fucking facepalm on stupid comments here. I don't suppose the Shanahans were called a problem for calling this play, with the same problems on our OL.

Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III to Niles Paul 29-yard TD - NFL Videos
Lol that was 3rd down and deep in their territory, so like, nothing similar. Chill out girl!!
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Old 12-02-2014, 06:04 PM   #2
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Lol that was 3rd down and deep in their territory, so like, nothing similar. Chill out girl!!
Child, if you want to facepalm on a short yardage situation, facepalm on the play I just showed you. Same concept, just in case it eluded you.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:00 PM   #3
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Spot on write up. Gruden's love affair with the passing attack was a problem back in Cincy and even more with our Skins, given the oline's shitty pass protection and above average run blocking.



Still cringe thinking about Gruden calling a pass on that 4th and short, fucking facepalm.

Oh your soooo short sighted. Its a passing league bro. Where have you been? Give the guy some time to make effin adjustments. Wow. Just wow.
Besides this our dang run game is not exactly non existent as you make it out to be.


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Old 12-02-2014, 07:19 PM   #4
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Spot on write up. Gruden's love affair with the passing attack was a problem back in Cincy and even more with our Skins, given the oline's shitty pass protection and above average run blocking.

Still cringe thinking about Gruden calling a pass on that 4th and short, fucking facepalm.
Actually in Cinci his Bengals were near the top of the league each year in both rushes and rushing yards.

And, as CRedskinsRule so ably pointed out, we've put effort into running the ball this year. The perception that Gruden is overly pass-happy is just plain wrong, and the numbers show it.

If the pass on 4th and 1 had worked, and it could have, everyone would be hailing him as a genius today. It wasn't a bad play call, it was bad execution.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:20 PM   #5
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Actually in Cinci his Bengals were near the top of the league each year in both rushes and rushing yards.



And, as CRedskinsRule so ably pointed out, we've put effort into running the ball this year. The perception that Gruden is overly pass-happy is just plain wrong, and the numbers show it.



If the pass on 4th and 1 had worked, and it could have, everyone would be hailing him as a genius today. It wasn't a bad play call, it was bad execution.

Well its not his fault he posted that it is Grudens so.....either way


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Old 12-02-2014, 05:08 PM   #6
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and yet Morris is 107 yds from 1000 yds. And #7 on the yardage list. With 70 more yards than Matt Forte and 9 more carries, in fact he is #5 in number of carries.

I think the lack of redzone production skews fan perspective on our offense, but we have been a good offense, even with several stinker games (and 1 blowout the other way). All this with a below average RT, a 3 headed rotational QB system, and a TE that is out every other game.

It just seems to me that this has been a shakeout year. I was full of koolaid early on, but this year has been, like many first year coaches have, a year to sort out who Gruden will base his future on. My hopes are, like many others, he will fire Haslett, and get a real RT, and some safeties. Only time will tell.
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Old 12-02-2014, 06:23 PM   #7
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and yet Morris is 107 yds from 1000 yds. And #7 on the yardage list. With 70 more yards than Matt Forte and 9 more carries, in fact he is #5 in number of carries.

I think the lack of redzone production skews fan perspective on our offense, but we have been a good offense, even with several stinker games (and 1 blowout the other way). All this with a below average RT, a 3 headed rotational QB system, and a TE that is out every other game.

It just seems to me that this has been a shakeout year. I was full of koolaid early on, but this year has been, like many first year coaches have, a year to sort out who Gruden will base his future on. My hopes are, like many others, he will fire Haslett, and get a real RT, and some safeties. Only time will tell.
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:28 PM   #8
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I too feel that Gruden was making Griffin play his system as opposed to adapting to Griffin's strengths. That being said I felt Gruden wanted to hold Griffin out after the injury. Whether that was to give him time to heal or to develop the appropriate skills in practice I am not sure and regardless it never manifested that way.
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Old 12-02-2014, 10:46 PM   #9
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Good coaches adapt to their players strength's.....Gruden has not done this.... Not saying he should go but not giving him a free pass either.

Regardless what happens to him Haz must go and we must go back to the 4-3. The 3-4 has failed us. Most of our players would be better in a 4-3. Question is where to you play Kerrigan DE or LB or you could play him at both depending on the situation.. Rak - resign little more than vet min with incentives as a DE and if he doesn't accept let him walk....
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Good coaches adapt to their players strength's.....Gruden has not done this.... Not saying he should go but not giving him a free pass either.

Regardless what happens to him Haz must go and we must go back to the 4-3. The 3-4 has failed us. Most of our players would be better in a 4-3. Question is where to you play Kerrigan DE or LB or you could play him at both depending on the situation.. Rak - resign little more than vet min with incentives as a DE and if he doesn't accept let him walk....
OOOOOrrrrrrrr

Good coaches draft players in to their systems that fit. After having a few years....

It works both ways.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:11 AM   #11
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I'll agree with that Bucket and go so far to say instead of "or" it should be "and" but when a coach comes in and the players don't fit he should adapt until he gets the players via draft or free agency that fits his scheme

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OOOOOrrrrrrrr

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Haz must go and we must go back to the 4-3. The 3-4 has failed us. Most of our players would be better in a 4-3. Question is where to you play Kerrigan DE or LB or you could play him at both depending on the situation.. Rak - resign little more than vet min with incentives as a DE and if he doesn't accept let him walk....
I like the idea of going to a 4-3.

Kerrigan was an outstanding 4-3 DE in college. Would he need to put on weight to play DE in the pros?

The rookie from Stanford looks like he has the frame to be a DE in the pros.

To me, paying near vet min for Orakpo doesn't seem to be realistic. Somebody is going to pay him more than that. The injury issues are still there with him but I think he could be a solid 4-3 DE.

We've got people who either have or could do a good job as a DT in a 4-3, IMO.

I'm not nearly as concerned about our DL personnel as most other posters seem to be but i could be wrong.
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Well I asked in another thread but nobody said how much input Gruden had this offseason? Harder to judge without all the draft picks though.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:08 AM   #14
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Shannon Sharpe offers the ultimate RGIII take - The Washington Post

Very interesting.

So has RGIII been working as hard as we thought he has been?
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Shannon Sharpe offers the ultimate RGIII take - The Washington Post

Very interesting.

So has RGIII been working as hard as we thought he has been?


I agree with that 100%. Too many people up here brushed aside his commercials and endorsements in the beginning. Well, they are very much related to how dedicated he is to football. Then again, Robert thought "practice was much harder than games" back in 2012. Robert was too busy acting like a superstar instead of actually becoming one.
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