Why the hate towards Fassel?

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

Mooch has better hair. Its almost Jimmy Johnson-esque.

[J. Spanky]

i think probably the biggest factor contributing to the bias against fassel is what happened last year in baltimore.

the ravens offense was dismal with him making calls. billick fired him, and immediately, the offense improved. the turn around was so noticeable and so instantaneous, one could not help but attribute the improvement directly to fassel (the LACK of fassel, that is).

true fassel is not being considered to be a coordinator here. but after having so recently demonstrated a glaring ineptitude in an assistant role, i think people's hesitance in embracing him as gibb's successor is, at least somewhat, justified.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by J. Spanky

i think probably the biggest factor contributing to the bias against fassel is what happened last year in baltimore.

the ravens offense was dismal with him making calls. billick fired him, and immediately, the offense improved. the turn around was so noticeable and so instantaneous, one could not help but attribute the improvement directly to fassel.

true fassel is not being considered to be a coordinator here. but after having so recently demonstrated a glaring ineptitude in an assistant role, i think people's hesitance in embracing him as gibb's successor is, at least somewhat, justified.

This is my main gripe with fassel. I'm already embarassed by the way Snyder has handled this whole thing and Fassel would just be icing on the cake, especially because of where I live.

In a much more unimportant/Blink-like way, Fassel just doesn't strike me as a great leader. I know this is kind of dumb because it's not based on anything but a visual perception but Fassel carries himself like a big loser IMO. There's just something about him that annoys me but i can't really put my finger on that. He reminds me of an over zealous middle school math teacher who likes to give his students packets of homework on Friday's and who constantly has pit stains.
I think the fact that other people are posting this guy's goofy mug proves that I'm not the only one who felt this gut reaction the moment I heard his name last week.
Maybe it's not even really him though; maybe it's more of the fact that he's NOT Gregg Williams, who I wanted to be named HC right away. It could be that I'm just bitter right now about how the season ended and this is my way of venting.

[J. Spanky]

oops, double post

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

mora would also have a higher approval than fassel and mora's not on tv. The other two are likeable guys. Fassel is a fit pitching sourpus who's career is mediocre. At least the other two are likeable mediocre.....

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

mora would also have a higher approval than fassel and mora's not on tv. The other two are likeable guys. Fassel is a fit pitching sourpus who's career is mediocre. At least the other two are likeable mediocre.....

Mora was Mooch's DC in SF.

[steveo395]

Jim Fassel never had two straight winning seasons on the Giants and his teams were very inconsistent. When Mariucci was on San Fran, his teams were much more consistent. They only did bad when Steve Young's career ended, and then they got good again with Garcia. Fassel and Mariucci are both offensive coaches, but Mariucci's offenses were always better, which is what the Redskins need.

Jim Fassel Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Steve Mariucci Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

I think people hate simply because he coached the Giants. Our rivalries run deep in the NFC East, and I don't blame anyone for the hate.

No Jimmie Johnson or Jimmy Fassel will ever be truly considering untainted if they ever wear the burgundy and gold!

[Remember21]

Fassil's body language is too negative, and I remember that the players were not listening to him his last year. He also had a pathetic superbowl appearance. He would be a disaster. It is that plain and simple.

Check out the bio of Steve Spagnuolo! This guy has coached every part of the defense, and won everywhere. The Eagles were much better with him, and now he has made the Giants great. We need to get this guy, because it will help us, and hurt the Giant. Double Bonus!

giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=10

[celts32]

He's 59 years old. If he were a great coach we would have found out already. He is the definition of a retread. Also in his press conferences he always tended to blame everyone but himself when things went wrong. That's not what a leader does...

I would rather give the job to a young unproven guy(Schwartz) then a retread. And if we have to go the retread route i would rather have Mooch or just about anyone you can think of over Fassel.

[jsnyder03]

If you had to start with a totally "clean slate", probably not much difference between G Williams, J Fassel or Mooch (Although I would have Mooch as #3).

However, we were not starting with a clean slate. Gibbs brough a certain sense of pride and family to the team. He created the "core Redskins" montra and brought a sense of stability and purpose.

G Williams doesn't have the ideal HC resume (neither do any of the other candidates). But, he was brought here with an implied consideration for being the successor HC, has the support of the players, other coaches and fans. He is the "logical" choice.

Perhaps he made too many demands and let his ego get in the way, but I don't want to speculate too much.

Now, regardless of who becomes our next HC, we can expect alot of on-field changes as well as personnel changes. Back to rebuilding mode just as we were getting ready to reap the benefits of our last rebuild.

[redsk1]

I do like Mariucci. I believe you can almost throw out Detroit's win/loss % when you talk about Mariucci b/c no one has won there. I believe they were rebuilding too. He had a good run and i remember liking the way his team responded to him in SF.

Fassel on the other hand reminds me of the HATED Giants. Although probably better than the skins throughout his coaching tenure there, I remember thinking how crappy his NY teams were for the most part and his choices at QB were always questionable. He just reminds me of all of the mediocre Giants teams. Really nothing against him personally. I just keep thinking...The best we can do is Jim Fassel?

[SFREDSKIN]

Another thing to note in this dilemma is that, Mariucci had VC as his GM and Fassel had a future HOF GM in George Young and Ernie Accorsi.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Another thing to note in this dilemma is that, Mariucci had VC as his GM and Fassel had a future HOF GM in George Young and Ernie Accorsi.

dont forget mat millen!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

dont forget mat millen!

I remembered after I typed and was too lazy to edit.