Why the hate towards Fassel?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Seriously, I'm not sure if theres a big difference between the two. Both have winning records, both have playoff experience, and both are "players" coaches. They both run the West Coast Offense. The only huge difference is that Fassel made it to the Super Bowl. Other than that, they're both very similar, IMO.

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

Mooch's record in Detroit shouldn't count, remember it is Detroit.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

Mooch has better hair. Its almost Jimmy Johnson-esque.

[J. Spanky]

i think probably the biggest factor contributing to the bias against fassel is what happened last year in baltimore.

the ravens offense was dismal with him making calls. billick fired him, and immediately, the offense improved. the turn around was so noticeable and so instantaneous, one could not help but attribute the improvement directly to fassel (the LACK of fassel, that is).

true fassel is not being considered to be a coordinator here. but after having so recently demonstrated a glaring ineptitude in an assistant role, i think people's hesitance in embracing him as gibb's successor is, at least somewhat, justified.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by J. Spanky

i think probably the biggest factor contributing to the bias against fassel is what happened last year in baltimore.

the ravens offense was dismal with him making calls. billick fired him, and immediately, the offense improved. the turn around was so noticeable and so instantaneous, one could not help but attribute the improvement directly to fassel.

true fassel is not being considered to be a coordinator here. but after having so recently demonstrated a glaring ineptitude in an assistant role, i think people's hesitance in embracing him as gibb's successor is, at least somewhat, justified.

This is my main gripe with fassel. I'm already embarassed by the way Snyder has handled this whole thing and Fassel would just be icing on the cake, especially because of where I live.

In a much more unimportant/Blink-like way, Fassel just doesn't strike me as a great leader. I know this is kind of dumb because it's not based on anything but a visual perception but Fassel carries himself like a big loser IMO. There's just something about him that annoys me but i can't really put my finger on that. He reminds me of an over zealous middle school math teacher who likes to give his students packets of homework on Friday's and who constantly has pit stains.
I think the fact that other people are posting this guy's goofy mug proves that I'm not the only one who felt this gut reaction the moment I heard his name last week.
Maybe it's not even really him though; maybe it's more of the fact that he's NOT Gregg Williams, who I wanted to be named HC right away. It could be that I'm just bitter right now about how the season ended and this is my way of venting.

[J. Spanky]

oops, double post

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

mora would also have a higher approval than fassel and mora's not on tv. The other two are likeable guys. Fassel is a fit pitching sourpus who's career is mediocre. At least the other two are likeable mediocre.....

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

mora would also have a higher approval than fassel and mora's not on tv. The other two are likeable guys. Fassel is a fit pitching sourpus who's career is mediocre. At least the other two are likeable mediocre.....

Mora was Mooch's DC in SF.

[steveo395]

Jim Fassel never had two straight winning seasons on the Giants and his teams were very inconsistent. When Mariucci was on San Fran, his teams were much more consistent. They only did bad when Steve Young's career ended, and then they got good again with Garcia. Fassel and Mariucci are both offensive coaches, but Mariucci's offenses were always better, which is what the Redskins need.

Jim Fassel Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Steve Mariucci Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Jim Fassel never had two straight winning seasons on the Giants and his teams were very inconsistent. When Mariucci was on San Fran, his teams were much more consistent. They only did bad when Steve Young's career ended, and then they got good again with Garcia. Fassel and Mariucci are both offensive coaches, but Mariucci's offenses were always better, which is what the Redskins need.

Jim Fassel Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Steve Mariucci Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Did Gibbs 2.0?

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Did Gibbs 2.0?

That's a whole other thread.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by redsk1

That's a whole other thread.

Not necessarily, especially when you're talking straight up wins and losses.

While Joe Gibbs put in place a STRONG leadership among the players on this team, his win and loss record wasn't exactly stellar.

Would I prefer Gibbs over ANY other coach if we had the option? Absolutely.

But I think it's absolute insanity the way some people are acting to hiring Fassel or anyone else... If you're going to dismiss wins and losses, then at least talk about intangibles, and what makes Fassel or anyone else less valuable with their intangibles.

Most of the candidates are player's coaches, work well with young quarterbacks and HAVE fielded winning teams with little to no mutiny on their own sidelines. Remember Fassel had to work with SHOCKEY. Let's all calm down and let's remember to give whoever it is a fighting chance.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

I think people hate simply because he coached the Giants. Our rivalries run deep in the NFC East, and I don't blame anyone for the hate.

No Jimmie Johnson or Jimmy Fassel will ever be truly considering untainted if they ever wear the burgundy and gold!

[Remember21]

Fassil's body language is too negative, and I remember that the players were not listening to him his last year. He also had a pathetic superbowl appearance. He would be a disaster. It is that plain and simple.

Check out the bio of Steve Spagnuolo! This guy has coached every part of the defense, and won everywhere. The Eagles were much better with him, and now he has made the Giants great. We need to get this guy, because it will help us, and hurt the Giant. Double Bonus!

giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=10