When will Jansen go?

[CRedskinsRule]

What a hater thread. Jansen deserves every chance to come back and see how he plays. Our line has been decent and when Jansen and Samuels are on top of their game it is among the best. Again, with out hating on Campbell to bad, the problem is getting rid of the ball in 3 seconds, not pass protecting for 10.

[jgalecpa]

I try to ignore the players' contract in evaluating them, especially after the 53 man roster has been set.

The best player should play, regardless of their pay.

If he is the best we have for now, play him.

History does show he is injury prone, no matter how well he plays when he's not hurt.

That has to be a determinant in how long we keep him around after this year.

I'd say if he's out more than 4 games this year with injuries, he won't be around next year.

J-Dawg.

[Paintrain]

I'm not at the same level of anger/hatred as the OP, I'm kinda tired of seeing Jansen playing like he's on roller skates. It's been a few (2003?) years since he's been healthy and a standout. He's serviceable at best right now. Thankfully the best pass rushers we'll face in the division (Cole, Ware, Tuck) all play over the LT so that's not too much of a concern but Heyer needs to get up to speed rather quickly cause Jansen's demise isn't going to be pretty or gradual.

[Stacks42]

Am i wrong? but didnt Parcells say that Jansen was done 3-4 years ago? He is a pretty good talent evaluator. If Jansen keeps playing the way he has been, then we might see Colt alot sooner than we expected.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Am i wrong? but didnt Parcells say that Jansen was done 3-4 years ago? He is a pretty good talent evaluator. If Jansen keeps playing the way he has been, then we might see Colt alot sooner than we expected.

Yeah, tuna hit the ball out of the park on his pre-draft opinion of Chris Cooley too.

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah, tuna hit the ball out of the park on his pre-draft opinion of Chris Cooley too.

What did he say about Cooley?

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah, tuna hit the ball out of the park on his pre-draft opinion of Chris Cooley too.

Good post. The Tuna is not always right. Great football guy but he's been wrong before.

[Stacks42]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah, tuna hit the ball out of the park on his pre-draft opinion of Chris Cooley too.

I think a pre-draft opinion is clearly different that and evaluation of a player who has been in the league for years, how many people passed on Tom Brady? Parcells said JJ lost a step, which he clearly has. While he is a great leader and locker room guy, he is also a liability. We dont really have that much depth on the line (as far a quality backups that have the ability to move in an supplant a starter) so we will have to stick with JJ.

[freddyg12]

I knew a thread like this had to pop up at some point.

I truly hope jansen can get it together, but he has struggled in pass pro & that's not surprising given his age, injuries. Maybe he'll regain form later in the year, but how long will they wait for that?

I think you have to pose the question in relation to the entire o line, can Rinehart take Kendall's job later in the year? How ready is Heyer?

I actually think there is a chance they move Jansen inside to play guard in the future. That might save his career. He'd be good at pulling & he can still run block well.

[ChillWill]

Just watched the Chris Samuels interview on Redskins.com and he attributed the JP punk job to poor technique, specifically bad hand placement. It sure appears that this O-Line cannot afford one day without Joe Bugel. They throw all technique out of the window. Rabach got handled as well. So far the good news is that Randy Thomas has looked good coming off of his injuries last year. That aside Jansen has not played well for years. I think his days as a RT are over. Ask any DE in the league that has played him over the last 4 years. In fact ask are own DE's. He does not look good in practice either. Let's just be honest for once. He's a great leader but the tape does not lie. I've rewatched the preseason film and it does not matter who he is lined up against in pass coverage he get's handled.

[MTK]

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[skinsfan69]

Jansen's injury last year wasn't something that could've been prevented. He got rolled up on. Just bad luck. So I wish people would stop calling him injury prone. However from what I've seen so far he simply can't pass block anymore. I can't even imagine what Tuck is going to do to this guy a week from Thurs. We'd better start running the ball, stop sending out 5 guys and max protecting.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Jansen's injury last year wasn't something that could've been prevented. He got rolled up on. Just bad luck. So I wish people would stop calling him injury prone. However from what I've seen so far he simply can't pass block anymore. I can't even imagine what Tuck is going to do to this guy a week from Thurs. We'd better start running the ball, stop sending out 5 guys and max protecting.

I think, the best news about next week, is that Jansen should get a lot of help to neutralize Tuck now with Osi out for the year.

[Skinz4life]

I don't think Heyer has looked much better than Jansen so far this preseason, after last year I really felt that he might push Jansen for the starting RT job. As far as Samuel's goes I am not to concerned, Zorn said in his press conference that he was fine outside of the play.

[The Goat]

Thanks a million Beastsofthe... Not only am I forced to watch the trainwreck that is John Jansen now I'm reminded that we're paying the guy like he's one of the best RT in pro football - this for a guy I think any honest observer realizes wouldn't get the league min from the other 31 teams.

If he's the best option we've got at RT my grade of the draft/off-season has to drop. On the other hand, I think we'll know whether he's the best option fairly soon. Already injured and looking more arthritic every day, I can't see JJ playing a full game in the regular season - easy prediction.