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The Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: South Carolina
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Re: Mike Martz
Only if you're interested in killing off Jason Campbell. And I'm not talking about having to learn a new offensive system.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: lancaster,pa
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Re: Mike Martz
i just thought with every one calling for a vertical passing game, this would be the man. im not if he is? but that offense of ours was painful to watch most of the year
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DC Metro Area
Age: 47
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Re: Mike Martz
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Martz is not a West Coast coordinator. Its like trying to make a cover 2 corner play man to man... the 2 do not mesh. Martz would have to learn the WCO or they would have to reinstall the Vertical passing game. That is exactly the type of change that we do not need. If we do not pick one system and stick with it, then our offense is going to be forever dreadful. In reality I do not expect to see significant strides in the offense for another 2 seasons. It is unrealistic to expect a Juggernaut in less than 4 seasons unless you already have a Pro Bowl Caliber QB. As much as I like JC he is not there yet. If we just stay on pace and keep at it, we can get there. No more changes. I understand that I am reiterating several thing that were already said by other posters, but it seems necessary because I do not think that everyone truly grasps the intricacies of what would have to happen to bring Martz in. Thanks for your time. |
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Re: Mike Martz
Another new offense?
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 54
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Re: Mike Martz
If there was a time to bring in Martz it would have been last year so he could build off of Saunders offense, not now. If we bring someone in, it will be a WCO guru.
I'd love Snyder to offer Holmgren something like $1 million to become an 'offensive consultant' or something. Nothing official like a coaching position or threatening to Cerrato or Zorn's job, but something that will let him work closely with Zorn on developing the offense while not being around all the time.
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Camp Scrub
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Mike Martz
Sources from ESPN and NFL.COM said that Holmgren will take a year off in 2009 and considering a comeback in 2010 as a GM or president.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C.
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Re: Mike Martz
If it's true that Snyder gave Vinny and Zorn 2 years to get things going.....Vinny better really make good or Holmgren may be getting an offer from Danny Boy.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
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Re: Mike Martz
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Living Legend
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: Mike Martz
Zorn and Martz run two different offenses terminolgy wise. Martz is not coming here. End of discussion.
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Special Teams
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Odenton, MD
Age: 46
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Re: Mike Martz
why keep zorn if you bring in martz? this thread makes no sense.
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Leesburg, VA
Age: 61
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Re: Mike Martz
Mike Martz's passing game is a direct decendent of the Don Coryell philosophy. Joe Gibbs, Norv Turner, and Al Saunders are also part of this coaching tree. If you change back to that philosophy, then you might as well get rid of Zorn, which would be a bad idea IMO. We need continuity, which means that we need to see whether Zorn/Campbell can make this WCO passing game work.
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Mike Martz
Is it time to close this thread yet?
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Camp Scrub
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Salisbury, North Carolina
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Re: Mike Martz
MartZ? IN DC? I don't like that idea.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 886
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Re: Mike Martz
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit area
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Re: Mike Martz
Sorry, but Nartz might be a good thing here. THe WCO sucks balls and overall will be a failure once everything is said and done. THe WCO is passe, like the option is in college football now. Both systems were run by everyone in the 80's and 90's, but were figured out. THe WCO of Zorn needs some work or to be totally replaced. I think it doesn't play to JCs #1 strength, which is his cannon arm.
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