Redskins Free Agents not named Jason Discussion

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by dmek25

Carlos Rogers keep
Casey Rabach gone
Byron Westbrook gone
Rocky McIntosh keep
Todd Yoder gone
Hunter Smith keep
Randy Thomas gone
Stephon Heyer gone
Lorenzo Alexander keep
Phillip Daniels gone
Kedric Golston keep
Anthony Montgomery gone
Renaldo Wynn gone
Will Montgomery gone
Chris Wilson keep
Reed Doughty keep
Matt Sinclair keep
Richard Bartel keep
Marcus Mason? gone
Quinton Ganther? gone
Levi Jones? gone
Mike Williams? gone
the one thing, among may, the skins lack is over all team speed. lets get younger and faster at the same time

Who exactly do you have playing o-line for us next year? I realize our line sucks, but you can't just get rid of all of our o-lineman. If we got rid of all of those guys the only o-lineman we have left are Dockery and Rinehart (assuming Samuels retires) so who exactly fills the other 7-8 spots? I know we're going to draft a few o-lineman and sign some FA's, but who says that they're going to work out?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Who exactly do you have playing o-line for us next year? I realize our line sucks, but you can't just get rid of all of our o-lineman. If we got rid of all of those guys the only o-lineman we have left are Dockery and Rinehart (assuming Samuels retires) so who exactly fills the other 7-8 spots? I know we're going to draft a few o-lineman and sign some FA's, but who says that they're going to work out?

The only guy on our team that should be sniffing starting on opening day next year in Dock...and he's only average.

Samuels is done
Rabach is awful...AWFUL
Thomas is done
RT...we haven't had a decent RT since when? Maybe '06. Jansen was a shell for years.

Williams and Jones might be decent backups but ultimately if either is in the mix to start next year we're in trouble again.

[SFREDSKIN]

These are the only guys worth keeping from the list.

Carlos Rogers
Rocky McIntosh
Hunter Smith
Lorenzo Alexander
Kedric Golston
Anthony Montgomery
Chris Wilson
Reed Doughty
Marcus Mason
Levi Jones
Mike Williams

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The only guy on our team that should be sniffing starting on opening day next year in Dock...and he's only average.

Samuels is done
Rabach is awful...AWFUL
Thomas is done
RT...we haven't had a decent RT since when? Maybe '06. Jansen was a shell for years.

Williams and Jones might be decent backups but ultimately if either is in the mix to start next year we're in trouble again.

I agree with you, but the reality is we need 9-10 o-lineman on the opening day roster. Dockery and Rinehart fill two spots. I can't see us bringing in more than 4-5 lineman through the draft/fa and assuming they all make the team brings us to 6-7 spots. Who fills the other 2-3? We're going to need to keep at least 2-3 of our current o-lineman not named Dockery and Rinehart.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Who exactly do you have playing o-line for us next year? I realize our line sucks, but you can't just get rid of all of our o-lineman. If we got rid of all of those guys the only o-lineman we have left are Dockery and Rinehart (assuming Samuels retires) so who exactly fills the other 7-8 spots? I know we're going to draft a few o-lineman and sign some FA's, but who says that they're going to work out?

our line blows. not even close to being NFL quality. i would give Ed Williams every opportunity to start at center. Dockery and Rinehart would start at guards. and my tackles would be rookies, or free agents. i really don't think anyone would notice any drop off at all, because of the poor play from this season. maybe i would keep Jones around for depth.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Who exactly do you have playing o-line for us next year? I realize our line sucks, but you can't just get rid of all of our o-lineman. If we got rid of all of those guys the only o-lineman we have left are Dockery and Rinehart (assuming Samuels retires) so who exactly fills the other 7-8 spots? I know we're going to draft a few o-lineman and sign some FA's, but who says that they're going to work out?

Here is what we ought to know by now. These guys have not worked out. So you move on and try to get a better cadre of players in here to begin to build the right mixture.

If a "new crop" turns out to be a miserable failure, how will that be significantly different from what we saw all year long here?

[Defensewins]

That is a sad list of players.

[mlmdub130]

Carlos Rogers keep trade if possible
Casey Rabachnot sure, want him gone but could use him
Byron Westbrookdid they think his name would make him a good player? gone
Rocky McIntoshmust keep
Todd Yoderkeep if possible no big deal if we can't though
Hunter Smithif someone better comes along get them, to injury prone
Randy Thomas retire
Stephon Heyeri hear safeway is hiring baggers
Lorenzo Alexanderkeeper, looking great on special teams
Phillip Danielsshould retire if not cut him
Kedric Golstonkeep
Anthony Montgomerygone
Renaldo Wynnseriously, love you naldo but hang em up already
Will Montgomerygone
Chris Wilsoncould care less either way doesn't really hurt or help us
Reed Doughtykeep, solid player
Matt Sinclairgone
Richard Bartelpack your bags
Marcus Mason?it's been real marcus but your gone
Quinton Ganther?keep, showing lots of positives and few negatives so far
Levi Jones?keep
Mike Williams?make that call after the offseason

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Carlos Rogers - RFA, Keep (try to trade him)
Casey Rabach - Gone
Byron Westbrook - Gone
Rocky McIntosh - Keep
Todd Yoder - Gone
Hunter Smith - Keep
Randy Thomas - Gone, Retire
Stephon Heyer - Keep, backup depth
Lorenzo Alexander - Keep
Phillip Daniels - Gone
Kedric Golston - Keep
Anthony Montgomery - Keep (look to trade him)
Renaldo Wynn - Gone, Retire
Will Montgomery - Gone, thankfully
Chris Wilson - Keep
Reed Doughty - Keep
Matt Sinclair - meh, Gone
Richard Bartel - meh, Gone
Marcus Mason - Gone
Quinton Ganther - Keep
Levi Jones - Gone
Mike Williams - Gone

I believe, (looking at the Texans since Kyle Shanahan will be our OC and Alex Gibbs may be our OL coach) that the OL will be completely overhauled with more athletic, quicker lineman. Probably none over 315. We will likely run a true Zone Blocking scheme with a lot of cutting by the OL.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Carlos Rogers - RFA, Keep (try to trade him)
Casey Rabach - Gone
Byron Westbrook - Gone
Rocky McIntosh - Keep
Todd Yoder - Gone
Hunter Smith - Keep
Randy Thomas - Gone, Retire
Stephon Heyer - Keep, backup depth
Lorenzo Alexander - Keep
Phillip Daniels - Gone
Kedric Golston - Keep
Anthony Montgomery - Keep (look to trade him)
Renaldo Wynn - Gone, Retire
Will Montgomery - Gone, thankfully
Chris Wilson - Keep
Reed Doughty - Keep
Matt Sinclair - meh, Gone
Richard Bartel - meh, Gone
Marcus Mason - Gone
Quinton Ganther - Keep
Levi Jones - Gone
Mike Williams - Gone
.

I agree with most of this; although I would like to try retain Levi Jones as RT, but not guaranteed starter though.. Have a rookie and Jones (and FA?) compete for #1 spot.. And that is if Jones accepts the role..

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Carlos Rogers: Tender at 1st round; Decide what defensive system we are going to play - keep or trade based on that.

I actually like this idea; we could use the pick to draft new CB or FS if there is good one available?

[Paintrain]

Carlos Rogers-Tender and trade
Casey Rabach-Yes
Byron Westbrook-Yes
Rocky McIntosh-Yes
Todd Yoder-No
Hunter Smith-Yes, but I don't think he's a free agent
Randy Thomas-No
Stephon Heyer-No
Lorenzo Alexander-Yes
Phillip Daniels-No
Kedric Golston-Yes
Anthony Montgomery-No
Renaldo Wynn-No
Will Montgomery-No
Chris Wilson-Yes
Reed Doughty-No
Matt Sinclair-No
Richard Bartel-No
Marcus Mason-No
Quinton Ganther-Yes
Levi Jones-Yes as a backup or at RT
Mike Williams-Yes as a backup G

[JoeRedskin]

Carlos Rogers: Tender at 1st round; Decide what defensive system we are going to play - keep or trade based on that.

Casey Rabach - Bye
Byron Westbrook - Bye
Rocky McIntosh - Tender at 2nd round. Keep
Todd Yoder - Not necessary, but if we are going to keep 3 TE's fine. Again, let's get a decision on what kind of offense we are going to run.
Hunter Smith - Keep, he's the best offensive weapon we've got.
Randy Thomas - Bye
Stephon Heyer - Bye
Lorenzo Alexander - Keep. (Can we get a team of Lorenzo's?)
Phillip Daniels - Bye
Kedric Golston - Keep (See Lorenzo comment)
Anthony Montgomery - Bye
Renaldo Wynn - Bye
Will Montgomery - Bye
Chris Wilson - Keep; play at SLB, move Rak to the line full time
Reed Doughty - Keep
Matt Sinclair - Bye
Richard Bartel - Bye (who?)
Marcus Mason - Bye
Quinton Ganthel - Keep at minimal price
Levi Jones - Keep
Mike Williams - Bye

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Carlos Rogers: Tender at 1st round; Decide what defensive system we are going to play - keep or trade based on that.

Casey Rabach - Bye
Byron Westbrook - Bye
Rocky McIntosh - Tender at 2nd round. Keep
Todd Yoder - Not necessary, but if we are going to keep 3 TE's fine. Again, let's get a decision on what kind of offense we are going to run.
Hunter Smith - Keep, he's the best offensive weapon we've got.
Randy Thomas - Bye
Stephon Heyer - Bye
Lorenzo Alexander - Keep. (Can we get a team of Lorenzo's?)
Phillip Daniels - Bye
Kedric Golston - Keep (See Lorenzo comment)
Anthony Montgomery - Bye
Renaldo Wynn - Bye
Will Montgomery - Bye
Chris Wilson - Keep; play at SLB, move Rak to the line full time
Reed Doughty - Keep
Matt Sinclair - Bye
Richard Bartel - Bye (who?)
Marcus Mason - Bye
Quinton Ganthel - Keep at minimal price
Levi Jones - Keep
Mike Williams - Bye

Nobody is going to give us a 1st rounder for Carlos Rogers.

[CultBrennan59]

Keep:
McIntosh
Hunter smith
Levi Jones
one or two of the 3 DT's probably lorenzo, then I don't care about the other 2

[skinsfaninok]

They all suck!! Except rocky