Redskins-Steelers (Preseason) Post-game Thoughts

[diehard]

Likes:
Grossman can run this offense.
Banks has value despite new rules.
Stallworth seems better than Galloway was last year.
Stretch plays and bootlegs are working well right now.
Moss was re-signed.
Gano is taking care of business.
Kellen is serviceable.

Dislikes:
Potential problems in the secondary.
Gap control defending the run.
Davis should be working with the WRs.

[Terpfan76]

I don't know about you all, but I had to watch the Steelers broadcast of the game which I assure you, sucked

That being said, I didn't get to see a lot of replays as far as how Kerrigan and company looked. I know Hankerson has been having some issues with is hands, dropping one easy catch, but at least came back and made a catch later in the game. I think our expectations for him will have to be tempered for now, but I still see him as a future star.

Royster looked to have a good grasp of the scheme, but I didn't see enough of Helu to be able to judge him and Hightower looks to be a lock to start this year. I'm not sure however, how good I feel about that. If someone would have told me a year ago that we'd be excited about having Hightower, I'd told them they were nuts...

This new kickoff crap is stupid. Nothing else needed to be said. Gano is probably going to be our kicker, for better or for worse. I wish we'd have snagged Alex Henry...sigh

I hope to see Cooley back and healthy sooner than later but I have to agree, Davis needs to be getting time with the receivers. He looks small, although I read he came into camp at about 240 as opposed to last seasons 260. David Boston anyone?

[skinsfaninok]

No doubt Rex grossman looks like he did the last 3 games in 2010.. Knows the system N puts up solid numbers.. Gaffney and moss looked great. O and D lines played well and Hightower beast

[skinsfan69]

A lot more likes than dislikes. But remember, it's only pre season

1. Very impressed with Grossman last night. Beck is offically the #2.
2. Hightower really ran hard. Looks like a great fit for this running game
3. wr's had some nice catches
4. o-line was solid.
5. Banks has got to be on this team.
6. Dline and backers were very active. Some nice plays by Cofield, Jenkins and Bowen
7. GANO!!!!!!!

Dislikes.
1. DHall...just cover your damn guy a quit trying to start fights. He's still a below average cover corner and was beaten a few times.
2. Josh Wilson...so so debut.
3. Shane Graham you're done. Pack you bags.

[saden1]

Likes:

1. Sexy Rexy...despite talking shit looked fantastic. I want to see Beck outdo him...lol.
2. Clemens played will despite not playing in the system for a long.
3. Tim Hightower...he knows what he is doing. Let's hope we see more downhill cuts than edge runs.
4. Offensive line unit. I loved how Monty played. Jamal Brown wasn't going as hard as the rest of them...let's hope it's a case of a vet not wanting to play hard in the pre-season and not a vet past his prime.
5. Play calling. Great job with variation. Good to see us get vertical and use deep drag routs. Those run fakes were awesome to see.
6. Defensive Line and Linebackers. Great hustle.
7. TE play. Great blocking and great catches. We're way too deep here. Sellers might be an odd man out if they are serious about converting him to a TE.
8. I am a huge Austin fan...the guy can play. Can we cut Kelly already?
9. For a rookie Niles Paul knows how to run routes.

Dislikes:

1. Our secondary is shit. Our starting corners are shit and our backup safeties are backups for a reason. There were at least 3 great opportunities for TDs the Steelers blew. There is no fcking way anyone can tell me Josh Wilson is a quality starting caliber CB in this league.

Apprehensions:

1. Karrigan's timid play. His coverage skills are shit. He is very mechanical right now but hopefully more playing time will fix that.
2. Leonard Hankerson looked like shit out there. He reminds me a lot of Devin Thomas with the way he played out there. Someone better tell him lazy players who play lazily don't last long in this league.
3. Jim Haslett. I am just not sure if this guy is up to the task of running a first class NFL defense.
4. Sexy Rex. I am worried he won't take what defenses give him. Davis was wide open on that deep play. You have to go there! No excuse for missing that at all.

[rbanerjee23]

I see a lot of o-line was good commentary on this thread -- watch the film, Will Montgomery against Casey Hampton was a joke. If Hampton hadn't left after the first drive, Rex would have been buried.

I am still worried about the interior - it's just the first preseason game but we're not out of the woods yet

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

If Hampton hadn't left after the first drive, Rex would have been buried.

The first drive where we started on the one yard line and marched ninety yard down the field and basically ran the ball down the throats of the Steelers vaunted 1st team defense?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I see a lot of o-line was good commentary on this thread -- watch the film, Will Montgomery against Casey Hampton was a joke. If Hampton hadn't left after the first drive, Rex would have been buried.

I am still worried about the interior - it's just the first preseason game but we're not out of the woods yet

There may have been one or two plays were Hampton got the best of Montgomery and I only know for sure of one. I believe the one that most people are thinking of came on a screen where Monty's job was to let Hampton get through. Granted Monty had bad plays but I've now had a chance to really watch the line a lot closer today and I personally came away happy with Monty as the new center. Will he be among the likes of Alex Mack and Nick Mangold? No, but he is certainly a huge upgrade over last years version of Rabach and may even be better then Corey Raymer near the end of the Norv Turner era.

Also keep in mind Hampton is a perennial pro bowler that I wouldn't be surprised to see beat guys like Matt Birk and Alex Mack throughout the year.

Anyway, the play by play videos are coming so as usual everyone else will get a chance to judge for themselves.

Bottom line on Monty is this though. He was nasty, fierce, got to the second level when he needed to, used his hands well, and more times then not gave Rex a pocket to step into. I only remember seeing 2 (maybe 3 at most) where I didn't like what I saw from Monty and that was in 2 Quarters of football with at least 30 snaps.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I see a lot of o-line was good commentary on this thread -- watch the film, Will Montgomery against Casey Hampton was a joke. If Hampton hadn't left after the first drive, Rex would have been buried.

I am still worried about the interior - it's just the first preseason game but we're not out of the woods yet

And I thought I was bad...

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I see a lot of o-line was good commentary on this thread -- watch the film, Will Montgomery against Casey Hampton was a joke. If Hampton hadn't left after the first drive, Rex would have been buried.

I am still worried about the interior - it's just the first preseason game but we're not out of the woods yet

Gtripp, you seen the game tape? Whats the opinion of the Oline play? I thought the Oline play was the team highlight of the night...second would kick/punt return play featuring Banks. Run blocking on the edges was pretty damn dominate and the pass blocking was excellent given the fact this is a Dick Lebeau coached team we were up against. I think if anyone is critical, its got to be on d side of the ball, particularly with coverage.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gtripp, you seen the game tape? Whats the opinion of the Oline play? I thought the Oline play was the team highlight of the night...second would kick/punt return play featuring Banks. Run blocking on the edges was pretty damn dominate and the pass blocking was excellent given the fact this is a Dick Lebeau coached team we were up against. I think if anyone is critical, its got to be on d side of the ball, particularly with coverage.

With the caveat that I did NOT re-watch the tape of the first few drives, I saw specific instances of Trent Williams giving up the bull rush and Jammal Brown getting destroyed in space. I thought Locklear looked good against second teamers.

I did not see specific instances of what other people are saying about Montgomery getting thrown around in the run game, but if it did happen, it's important to remember that he's Will Montgomery. It's been an impressive ascension to starting C of this team, but two years ago, he was a bad backup lineman on one of the worst offensive lines in recent memory. He's a better player than he was then, and he's in a spot more conducive to success on the line, but keep that in mind about Will Montgomery. He wouldn't leave here and go start for any other team.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I see a lot of o-line was good commentary on this thread -- watch the film, Will Montgomery against Casey Hampton was a joke. If Hampton hadn't left after the first drive, Rex would have been buried.

I am still worried about the interior - it's just the first preseason game but we're not out of the woods yet

What game were you watching because it certainly wasn't the Redskins vs Steelers last night.

(thanks to Dirtbag for the game film)


So Montgomery vs Hampton was a joke? I think the evidence clearly shows otherwise. You do realize that one play was a SCREEN pass right?

[skinsfaninok]

t.h looks like steven jackson 39 lol

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

t.h looks like steven jackson 39 lol

Minor squabble of mine but I don't like him in #39. #40 would look tight, or even his old # from Arizona #34 if Westbrook would give it up.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Minor squabble of mine but I don't like him in #39. #40 would look tight, or even his old # from Arizona #34 if Westbrook would give it up.

Like gross. 40 is for like slow guys. 39 says I'm not only fast, but I'm tough to.