Who is Kirk Cousins?

[Chico23231]

Back up qb....and a mighty fine one

[SolidSnake84]

But i bet if you look at every one of Cousin's interceptions this year - freaking Grant is involved in some way...Not all of the picks have been solely KC's fault.

I still think if they give him the full season, he will start to improve and then that way at least he is in the battle for QB next off-season...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

But i bet if you look at every one of Cousin's interceptions this year - freaking Grant is involved in some way...Not all of the picks have been solely KC's fault.

I still think if they give him the full season, he will start to improve and then that way at least he is in the battle for QB next off-season...

Washington Redskins struggle to overcome impact of Kirk Cousins' inter - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

Grant involved with 2 of 8 and only 1 did he share some blame.

[SFREDSKIN]

He's an international man of mystery and QB for the Redskins.

[Buffalo Bob]

I am starting to get concerned how he struggles throwing out routes, that should not be an issue with a 4th year QB.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I am starting to get concerned how he struggles throwing out routes, that should not be an issue with a 4th year QB.

His arm is limited. Those type of throws just aren't his strength.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

His arm is limited. Those type of throws just aren't his strength.

I don't agree with that Matt. I'm not sold Kirk is a starter, but his arm isn't limited. I've seen him make all the throws.

[30gut]

I think you're both right. Kirk can make all the throws. But from what I've seen his arm isn't strong enough to make those throws without perfect form. Imo he has to throw off platform from a muddy pocket or off balance etc. He doesn't have the arm strength in those situations to drive the ball with velocity and that causes him to spray passes off target (high,low, short, behind etc).

I also think the current emphasis on getting the ball out quick has Kirk playing close too hurried. I think Kirk is playing with an over emphasis on not taking sacks. Its good to get the ball out quick and beat the rush etc. But when you're rushing and it effects your footwork and you miss a wide open gimme throws (like the one he missed to Garcon in the flat on (iirc) 2nd and 2 in the Jets) then its a problem. Like Wooden said ~'be quick, but don't hurry'. Also, and maybe its mere co-incidence but I wonder if Griffin being active put Kirk on more pressure?

BUT part and parcel with Kirk's struggles is the coaching. The gameplan and playcalling remains predictable. In broad strokes without getting too far into the weeds; Jay's offense lacks disguise. By and large on first down if its a run he's going to use a formation that indicates run. I-Form or Single back usually with base personnel or 2/3 TEs. IF Jay drop back passes on 1st down its usually from a formation that he doesn't use to run. Shotgun 1 back or under center 3 wide or empty (and the pass is usually a screen). You know why defense seem to be all over the WR screen to Crowder on 1st down? Because its one of the only passes we run from that shotgun formation on 1st down.
Imho If they want to be a better run team they need to run the ball from some of the same formations, personnel and down and distance that they pass from.

TLDR: Jay's offense 1st down= run from base formations/base personnel.
IF Jay's offense comes out in a pass set on 1st down its going to be a pass.
Defenses have a good read on what's coming based on formations.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I don't agree with that Matt. I'm not sold Kirk is a starter, but his arm isn't limited. I've seen him make all the throws.

I saw a written summary of Kirk's picks. I thought he had thrown 2 picks on
out routes but the summary (can't remember where I read it) described 3 of the 8 pics on out routes. Don't know if it is an arm strength issue but
too many times he throws those inside where they are ripe to turn into a pick six. Until the issue is corrected he needs to stop throwing them unless the receiver is wide open. A well thrown out is either caught by the receiver or uncatchable. Not the case for those thrown by Kirk.

[skinsfaninok]

I have been real harsh on him this week, I have realized KC is just another guy, Rex Grossman, JC, Todd Collins, etc. He has a very AVG arm which I thought was much stronger than it was, he makes incredibly bad decisions, I'm talking freshman QB in college mistakes... The last 3 INTS he has thrown have been as bad as I've seen in the nfl in years.. Jon Gruden spoke about him today and basically said the skins are very limited on offense due to Kirk, I'm sure he is backing his bro a bit but he is right.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I have been real harsh on him this week, I have realized KC is just another guy, Rex Grossman, JC, Todd Collins, etc. He has a very AVG arm which I thought was much stronger than it was, he makes incredibly bad decisions, I'm talking freshman QB in college mistakes... The last 3 INTS he has thrown have been as bad as I've seen in the nfl in years.. Jon Gruden spoke about him today and basically said the skins are very limited on offense due to Kirk, I'm sure he is backing his bro a bit but he is right.

Thank god I was wrong and kirk has made me eat my crow but it's a delicious crow

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Thank god I was wrong and kirk has made me eat my crow but it's a delicious crow

It's a week to week league. If KC throws a couple picks and we lose next week, it will be "fire Gruden and who's the top qb in the draft!"

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's a week to week league. If KC throws a couple picks and we lose next week, it will be "fire Gruden and who's the top qb in the draft!"

Most fans are not quite as fickle as you think. Nearly all redskins fans now know what we have in KC, Gruden, and SM.

[JoeRedskin]

Kirk Cousins is a 27 year old, 4th year pro who throws more INT's than TD's.

Really not that complicated.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Kirk Cousins is a 27 year old, 4th year pro who throws more INT's than TD's.

Really not that complicated.

But but but but but but but he needs more time!