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Old 05-17-2010, 03:56 PM   #1
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Re: Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

bah.....he should've posted it here.
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:38 PM   #2
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^ Was just getting ready to post that Matty. Good read.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:52 PM   #3
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I had a dream that we traded AH for Darnell Dockett and Alan Branch
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:25 PM   #4
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I had a dream that we traded AH for Darnell Dockett and Alan Branch
I had a dream that we traded AH to the Patriots for a third.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:03 PM   #5
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I had a dream that we traded AH to the Patriots for a third.
i love that trade, as it would screw all parties involved equally:

1. It would screw the Redskins because we would be giving up one of the best defensive players in the league for a 3rd round pick, likely near the bottom of the third round, in a very weak 2011 draft class. To top it off, if we continue rebuilding our front office, we'll likely have mostly new scouting and personnel departments next year, further minimizing the likelihood that whomever we select at the pick will ever amount to even being a serviceable backup.

2. It would screw Haynesworth because we'd be trading him to a 3-4 team, and one where he'd likely be benched when he ultimately acted up.

3. It would screw the Patriots because they'd be giving up a pick likely to yield them a starter (far superior coaching staff and personnel department) for a disgruntled player who didnt want to be there and would miss 50% of plays due to being tired or "injured. And the other 50% of the time he'd be giving a half-hearted effort... because, again, he didnt want to be there.

All in all, i think this is one of the best Haynesworth trade ideas i've heard to date. (And Yes, for the record, I do know you were being sarcastic. I just figured i would take it up a notch.)
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i love that trade, as it would screw all parties involved equally:

1. It would screw the Redskins because we would be giving up one of the best defensive players in the league for a 3rd round pick, likely near the bottom of the third round, in a very weak 2011 draft class. To top it off, if we continue rebuilding our front office, we'll likely have mostly new scouting and personnel departments next year, further minimizing the likelihood that whomever we select at the pick will ever amount to even being a serviceable backup.

2. It would screw Haynesworth because we'd be trading him to a 3-4 team, and one where he'd likely be benched when he ultimately acted up.

3. It would screw the Patriots because they'd be giving up a pick likely to yield them a starter (far superior coaching staff and personnel department) for a disgruntled player who didnt want to be there and would miss 50% of plays due to being tired or "injured. And the other 50% of the time he'd be giving a half-hearted effort... because, again, he didnt want to be there.

All in all, i think this is one of the best Haynesworth trade ideas i've heard to date. (And Yes, for the record, I do know you were being sarcastic. I just figured i would take it up a notch.)
1) so our new scouting/personnel team will be worse? what would be the point of bringing them in?

2) what problem would he have being DE? you think he'd replace Wilfork? LOL

3) you can't back it up and the stats have been shown to you enough to just make you look plain dumb in this case
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i love that trade, as it would screw all parties involved equally:

1. It would screw the Redskins because we would be giving up one of the best defensive players in the league for a 3rd round pick, likely near the bottom of the third round, in a very weak 2011 draft class. To top it off, if we continue rebuilding our front office, we'll likely have mostly new scouting and personnel departments next year, further minimizing the likelihood that whomever we select at the pick will ever amount to even being a serviceable backup.

2. It would screw Haynesworth because we'd be trading him to a 3-4 team, and one where he'd likely be benched when he ultimately acted up.

3. It would screw the Patriots because they'd be giving up a pick likely to yield them a starter (far superior coaching staff and personnel department) for a disgruntled player who didnt want to be there and would miss 50% of plays due to being tired or "injured. And the other 50% of the time he'd be giving a half-hearted effort... because, again, he didnt want to be there.

All in all, i think this is one of the best Haynesworth trade ideas i've heard to date. (And Yes, for the record, I do know you were being sarcastic. I just figured i would take it up a notch.)
Seriously, it was just a dream. In fact, I had it twice.
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Haynesworth feels "deceived" by Redskins
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on May 17, 2010 7:32 PM ET
Owner Dan Snyder is disappointed by his defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth.

Haynesworth, for his part, doesn't feel that he's been treated fairly. According to NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, those close to Haynesworth say he feels that he's been sold a bill of goods. The word used was "deceived."

Here's how they are selling it:

Haynesworth was promised before signing he could attack the quarterback when he came to Washington. The Redskins even considered trying to bring his old Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn to town. Haynesworth had Snyder's ear.

Now that's all changed. He's being asked to occupy blockers, and he can't go around the coaches to get to Snyder anymore.

To this, we say: grow up. Things in life happen that are bigger than you. Coaches get fired, schemes change.

The Haynesworth camp would be better off not giving his side of the story.
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Haynesworth feels "deceived" by Redskins
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on May 17, 2010 7:32 PM ET
Owner Dan Snyder is disappointed by his defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth.

Haynesworth, for his part, doesn't feel that he's been treated fairly. According to NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, those close to Haynesworth say he feels that he's been sold a bill of goods. The word used was "deceived."

Here's how they are selling it:

Haynesworth was promised before signing he could attack the quarterback when he came to Washington. The Redskins even considered trying to bring his old Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn to town. Haynesworth had Snyder's ear.

Now that's all changed. He's being asked to occupy blockers, and he can't go around the coaches to get to Snyder anymore.

To this, we say: grow up. Things in life happen that are bigger than you. Coaches get fired, schemes change.

The Haynesworth camp would be better off not giving his side of the story.
Looks like fans here love to fuel up this non-story by posting these TMZ-like articles.

Just for those keeping score at home, here are some voluntary workouts/camps absences, you know that horrible crime sanctioned by the UN...

Andre Johnson of Houston Texans skips workout - ESPN

Cleveland Browns kicker Phil Dawson absent with contract issues - ESPN
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Looks like fans here love to fuel up this non-story by posting these TMZ-like articles.

Just for those keeping score at home, here are some voluntary workouts/camps absences, you know that horrible crime sanctioned by the UN...

Andre Johnson of Houston Texans skips workout - ESPN

Cleveland Browns kicker Phil Dawson absent with contract issues - ESPN
You can poke at this non-story and defend AH, however here's a quote from the article:

"One of the things that was real smart on his (D. Ryans) part was the fact that he was upset that we had not been able to come to terms with an agreement, but he came back and was a part of the offseason workout and he was with his teammates, he was a leader and he did things the right way," Smith said. "He played his contract out and he was rewarded."

Despite being a talented, veteran player who is among the highest paid in the NFL, AH is not doing things the right way. Fans have a right to be disappointed with his behavior (I couldn't care less about the talking heads). Again, this is no mystery/surprise, but it's still disappointing.

Also from the article: "Obviously we want Andre here," coach Gary Kubiak said. "I know he and Rick are talking, so we'll get it worked out. We're not worried about Andre. He'll do his job."

When mandatory activities begin will AH "do his job", I'm confident he will. But could he have made the team more cohesive and better by being here with everyone else (100% attendance outside of AH), absolutely yes. I find it hard to fault any Redskin fan who is angry that AH is purposefully and selfishly hurting the team.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:07 PM   #11
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You can poke at this non-story and defend AH, however here's a quote from the article

When mandatory activities begin will AH "do his job", I'm confident he will. But could he have made the team more cohesive and better by being here with everyone else (100% attendance outside of AH), absolutely yes. I find it hard to fault any Redskin fan who is angry that AH is purposefully and selfishly hurting the team.
I'm not poking fun, it's just that this whole thing is getting tired. Yes we know he's missing camp, yes he should be there, and yes these camps/workouts are mandatory. You can probably add all the stories and all the threads posted about this, and they all say the same thing. People just need to get over it and wait until mandatory camp and then comment.
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You can poke at this non-story and defend AH, however here's a quote from the article:

"One of the things that was real smart on his (D. Ryans) part was the fact that he was upset that we had not been able to come to terms with an agreement, but he came back and was a part of the offseason workout and he was with his teammates, he was a leader and he did things the right way," Smith said. "He played his contract out and he was rewarded."

Despite being a talented, veteran player who is among the highest paid in the NFL, AH is not doing things the right way. Fans have a right to be disappointed with his behavior (I couldn't care less about the talking heads). Again, this is no mystery/surprise, but it's still disappointing.

Also from the article: "Obviously we want Andre here," coach Gary Kubiak said. "I know he and Rick are talking, so we'll get it worked out. We're not worried about Andre. He'll do his job."

When mandatory activities begin will AH "do his job", I'm confident he will. But could he have made the team more cohesive and better by being here with everyone else (100% attendance outside of AH), absolutely yes. I find it hard to fault any Redskin fan who is angry that AH is purposefully and selfishly hurting the team.
It's not a position I hold, but I think this is really well said.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:54 AM   #13
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So how does AH for AJ feel. Its way better than the whole 3rd rounder or 4th bullshit. Maybe its a reach, well it is a reach. I would be real comfortable with this move for a WR, and now he is disgruntled maybe there could be something here. The coaches are all very close and personable we need a WR they could use a beast like AH. Maybe we can get AJ for a Moss and someone else they need help with their running game. We can sign B. Westbrook and trade any of the other 3 with Moss attached. Just a thought.
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AH is getting pretty unprofessional about all this shit.
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:01 PM   #15
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AH just sounds like a rich b**ch. Im so mad i cant go over the coaches head anymore now i got to earn my money.

I was giving him the beneifit of doubt but now he just ruined that if this true.
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